What would be the world record for marathon if a person could run each mile a different times in 24 hour period

Yeah France wrote:

It may be slower than the current world record.

I have run just a fraction under 2:29 and ran 120 mpw while training for it. I also have a mile PR of 4:10. There is no way that I could have finished the 26x1 mile workout at 5:40 pace. If you have ever done 32x400m then you know how you feel later in the day. A marathon is easier than 32x400m at marathon pace.

Some people are different than me but my legs would not cooperate and I would run the last 10 miles over 6:00 pace.

You do have a ridiculous amount of rest time though, I feel like you are forgetting that. There is no way it would ever be slower than the current world record, the people saying upper 1:40s sound about right.

I bet around 420 per mile at the end of the day. Pat Porter did 6xmile I think in around 416 in Alamosa (7500ft) with 3min rest. He wasn't the best marathoner but with 15min rest he could probably do three times the volume at the same pace, maybe faster. You've gotta think some of these 205 guys could do that without too much of a problem. It would be boring, only running 3 repeats per hour but it could be done.

Dennis Reynolds wrote:

Yeah France wrote:

It may be slower than the current world record.

Some people are different than me but my legs would not cooperate and I would run the last 10 miles over 6:00 pace.

You do have a ridiculous amount of rest time though, I feel like you are forgetting that. There is no way it would ever be slower than the current world record, the people saying upper 1:40s sound about right.

1:40? That is crazy - that is average mile of 3:50. I think many here are underestimating the toughness of this. Running one mile hard - then resting - then have to strech and loosen up and run another mile hard - then repeat and repeat and repeat. After a while your legs will get stiffer and stiffer. The breaks between miles will possibly become (after maybe 16 miles) be tougher than just non-stop running. I could see a time not far off the current world record.

1 hour and 57 minutes and 14 seconds

"1 hour and 57 minutes and 14 seconds"

Care to explain your reasoning?

Yeah France wrote:

I have run just a fraction under 2:29 and ran 120 mpw while training for it. I also have a mile PR of 4:10. There is no way that I could have finished the 26x1 mile workout at 5:40 pace. If you have ever done 32x400m then you know how you feel later in the day. A marathon is easier than 32x400m at marathon pace.

I've run 40x 400m with a 200m coast in between, quite a bit faster than marathon pace. With a 4:10 mile you should be well under 2:20 for a marathon.

Some friends of mine ran a 24 hour relay in Southern California in the '70's. It's been awhile but I'm pretty sure both of them averaged quite a bit faster for the marathon distance than their best 3 mile times on the track.

My guess is that someone could definitely average under 4:10, and maybe under 4:05.

i think that's 4:30's

No, I used an esoteric formula that I created but explaining it here would be just so much pearls before swine.

You would be better running 3 mile stints.

Do a mile, and a 3 second jog recovery that starts at the line and roll into the next mile.

Do 9 of these with an assorted recover dependent on how you feel. Maybe a couple of hours recovery between.

But you're going to find that the 'recovery' is going to eat into your true recovery. There will come a time when you will get slower due to the lack of real recovery.

You may not break 2 hours. And if you are 2:10 marathoner or worse, you may get to about 2:08 plus at best.

I said upper 1:40s bro, like a 1:49.

Less than 1:50, maybe in the 1:46's.

This is interesting but people can do it faster than you think. You can run very fast in 24 hour relays(I have done 5 of them)- much faster than you would think possible. It is not physically as hard as a marathon during it i dont think(although Ive only done one marathon) but you are really really sore the next day. It is def a mental grind though.

Anyway its def possible to do 5k pace or faster for these. I averaged 5:15 pace for 24 miles the summer after i graduated from high school- at that time my 5k PR was definitely north of 17 minutes and my two mile was about 1015- 3k was 936 so convert that.

The next? year or two years later id have to look it up i avged 457 for like 17 and then blew up lol. The sucky thing is if you do one slow one it kills ur average.

The best one I think I have seen relative to ability is a girl I coached on one of the teams averaged like 609 when her 2 mile PR was about 1210. I think that was the summer before her senior year. I can look it up its fun to look back on them they gave out nice little booklets w all the results.

So yeah someone could do right around 4:00 for these if they could run 1240-1245 for 5k.

Heres the average paces from the recent one they had(well relatively recent it was 2005 lol)

http://www.annapolisstriders.org/24HourRelayIndividualPaceSummary.htm

This obv doesnt mean anything without knowing anything about the people but Cordis had a HS mile PR of 421 but a 2 mile of hm 940? he was at Howard University at the time and ran 2630ish for 8k. Ray was an 800m runner at Howard who barely did cross country and I didnt really know Khary except that day but he was a 400 hurdler who vaguely did cross country and ended up running 530 pace for 23-4 miles lol which was fairly amazing. Also i will indeed admit that I sucked in this race.

Now im going on and on lol but full disclosure Cordis and Ray came late and they ended up on the B team which means that they got serious long rest esp in the middle. Khary came on his own and the poor guy was on the A team even though he was the least trained of anyone. So he had to do like 23 miles(i think his longest run ever at once was prob like 5) and they only did some puny total it was like 18 or something because they were getting like 90 min rest. Jerks lol.

Someone could definitely average 10k pace for this. So for Bekele, what's that - 4:14 pace?

7 am - 7 x 1 mile at 10k pace with tons of rest, like 10 minutes between reps. This should feel pretty manageable due to the long rests.

8:30 am - finish workout, grab breakfast, play Xbox for a few hours

11 am - 6 x 1 mile at 10k pace

12:30 pm - lunch then 3 hr nap

3:30 pm - wake up, chill for a while

5 pm - 6 x 1 mile at 10k

6:30 pm - finish workout, have dinner, watch a movie

9:30 pm - bedtime - 8 hrs sleep

5:30 am wake up

One final 6xmile workout + 0.2

1:56:08

The other question is, who would be the best at this?

A guy like Belele when he was fit or a guy like El G when he was fit?

thinker 10 wrote:

The other question is, who would be the best at this?

A guy like Belele when he was fit or a guy like El G when he was fit?

I think El G could do 26 x 1 mile in 4:05 with 50 mins rest when he was at his prime.

Geb would crush it.