Galen Rupp in 800m at Oregon Twilight Friday

That would place him on the top of leaders list this year so far. Even at the end of the year, there will still be a lot of 800M specialists with 1.44+ as their best for the year. 1.43 +/- 30sec is a reasonable range for the best American 800M time this year. So you think Rupp is better than most of the top runners who train and ran this race specifically?

Every time I see a Rupp thread, it is followed by ridiculous claims for someone with such a short stint at the top. I think he should concentrate on defeating his training partner, Farah, winning golds, and breaking records. He will look like an idiot if he runs all these good times then fails to medal by the end of the year. You may not want to hear this, but as good as he is, there are several guys who are capable of denying him victory if he makes a mistake at worlds.

rojo wrote: It's AMAZING people are saying he can easily be a 1:45 guy...

I expect fans of running are being prepped, by people "in the know" for Rupp running 1:45 or better. Rupp must believe his internal system "setting" are optimal, and his TUEs seem to save the day when he gets tested.

The real question (alarm?) is, can a 27-year-old guy who has never run anywhere close to 1:45, running in a non-specialty event, run 1:45? Is everyone intended to believe it was due to nothing more than talent and confidence?

1:48 at best.

Rupp could probably be the top American in any event from the 1500m - marathon if he put his mind to it this year.

If it's a fast race I could definitely see him going 1:45.50, but going to guess 1:46.70 FTW.

kartelite wrote:

Rupp could probably be the top American in any event from the 1500m - marathon if he put his mind to it this year.

If it's a fast race I could definitely see him going 1:45.50, but going to guess 1:46.70 FTW.

we'll have to create a thread on friday dissing everybody who thought we were crazy.

rupp and alberto are an unstoppable duo.

I understand why runners go down in distance, but how far down is it ok to go? Will Rupp be coming out of the blocks next?

petting my panda wrote:

I understand why runners go down in distance, but how far down is it ok to go? Will Rupp be coming out of the blocks next?

I'm too lazy to find a link, but I remember an interview where Alberto said he likes to put his athletes in under-distance stuff to teach them how to be really tactical at really fast paces that they're not used to. I don't think coming out of blocks would help him get tactically sharp.

I actually really like the idea of having people race under distance; the best way to learn something is to do it, and if Rupp is going to be running tactical 800s at the end of a 5k or 10k, then he has to do it for real a few times; the easiest way to do that is in an actual 800.

themanontherun wrote:

I'm too lazy to find a link, but I remember an interview where Alberto said he likes to put his athletes in under-distance stuff to teach them how to be really tactical at really fast paces that they're not used to. I don't think coming out of blocks would help him get tactically sharp.

I actually really like the idea of having people race under distance; the best way to learn something is to do it, and if Rupp is going to be running tactical 800s at the end of a 5k or 10k, then he has to do it for real a few times; the easiest way to do that is in an actual 800.

This ^^^^

His mile is worth about a 1:44 mid, but I don't think he has the wheels for that. Anywhere from 1:46-1:52 if you want me to be honest.

[quote]Deanouk wrote:

[quote]bubbadeeboo wrote:

"In my view a more realistic line for where he may be in August

1'48 / 26"30...

1500 - 3'31.46

Mile - 3'47.95

3000 - 7'22.68

5000 - 12'42.07

In "perfect" race with even pace & wabbits"

i agree with the 147,and it is the safe bet to say guys can't approach 722 347 and such.

however the problem with speculating about abnormal events is that normal thinking often does not apply.

the x factor i see - salazar could tell you - is his 400m open speed. is it 51? if it is 49 seconds then rupp can indeed go 347 mile in the right race. = full drafting and even pace.

and if he does that, there is no need to suggest he's anything like coe in talent at the mile. if rupp tried to keep pace with the tactically inept (but mentally sound - somehow) coe, he would be lucky to run 355.

coe really was a 344 miler.

in the 5k rupp can do at least sub 1250. probably 1240 low.

remember moorcroft was good for that too, with that solo 13 flat with slightly dodgy pace.

rojo wrote:

As for Rupp, everyone remmember this is a guy who lost to a college freshman walk on less than 4 years ago in an 800 in 1:54.

Yeah, but then he went 1:49i in his next 800m that season. And lets not all pretend that we weren't impressed with a 1:54 at the time and that he was even attempting the 800 to begin with.

jodjkfjhnhdhf wrote:

rojo wrote:

As for Rupp, everyone remmember this is a guy who lost to a college freshman walk on less than 4 years ago in an 800 in 1:54.

Yeah, but then he went 1:49i in his next 800m that season. And lets not all pretend that we weren't impressed with a 1:54 at the time and that he was even attempting the 800 to begin with.

Bah, 4 years ago made me think 2009 season, nvm.

rojo wrote:1:45 for an opener?

So a 2648 10k guy is also America's best 800 guy or close to it?

No one in the country has run 1:45 this year and you want a 10k to open at that? His pb is 1:50.00 outdoors and 1:49.97 indoors.

If he opens in 1:45 - a 5 second pb - then everyone in his countyr should demand the FBI track him 24/7 and figure out what how much he sleeps, drinks, eats, etc as we all need to do that. Better than the fountain of youth.

spot on

anyone who says 1'45 for rupp needs their head examined

if he had 1'45.0 speed & all his endurance, then we are looking at ~

49.4 / 1'45.0 ->

3'27.5 !!!

4'43.0 !!!

7'18.1 !!!!

12'38.7 !!!

26'34.9

he woud be fighting with asbel/maloofi for best 1500 guy in the world, woud absolutely crush komen's 7'20 & frighten kennster's 5k wr

anything close to 1'48-flat woud be superb

Why the hell are you inputting 49.4? Even if that is his PR it's gotta be his least reliable one. Stick in his mile or 10k, genius.

I'll go with 1:48 as well

pretty sure if andres arroyo can go under 1:48 then galen rupp can AT LEAST run 1:48. not saying rupp will run 1:45, but 1:47 is very realistic.

Dennis Reynolds: "If Rupp ever runs a 1:45 I will cut my dick off BME pain Olympics style."

I'm guessing 1:45.9

oatmeal + water wrote:

pretty sure if andres arroyo can go under 1:48 then galen rupp can AT LEAST run 1:48. not saying rupp will run 1:45, but 1:47 is very realistic.

For his rustbuster? I doubt it. 1:48 would be great, anything under 1:50 would be solid.

Looks like Wheating wants in, too.

petting my panda wrote:

I understand why runners go down in distance, but how far down is it ok to go? Will Rupp be coming out of the blocks next?

I certainly hope so. Why not? It would be a heck of a lot less painful than an 800!

Go Rupp.