Galen Rupp in 800m at Oregon Twilight Friday

The Single Voice of Reason wrote:

Rupp will run no faster than 1:48.

He may be able to run 3:50, but he's a 5k/10k guy and it's his first race of the season.

Let's be realistic here, folks -- Lagat ran 3:26 (doped, sure, but whatever) and isn't his PR still in the 1:46 range? Sure he probably could've gone faster, but if he could've gone THAT much faster, he would've.

Rupp is an animal, and his speed is incredible when paired with his strength. But 1:46? Yeah right.

I am only responding to this post to point out its fallacy:

You can not base your argument on one person.

for example, I could just as easily say "Leo Manzano has run a 1:44 and his mile PR is 3:50, therefore Rupp should be able to run at least 1:45 since he has the same mile PR"

Both of these statements hold equal weight in terms of argument: not much.

However, the argument that has already been made stating that since Rupp is more of a 5k/10k guy, he probably will have a comparably slower 800m time to his 3:50 mile. Heck an even better argument at the moment (which has also already been made) is that he is no where near his peak for the season and therefore will be way off what he is fully capable of. I could even see him and Centrowitz being right next to each other (mainly because Centro showed indoors that at this moment in his career, he does not have the wheels for the 800m)

It's Rupps opener. He went 3:57? As his opener indoors struggling then busted his ~3:51. Nothing he does will be indicative of his ability most likely.

The Waterboy wrote:

I wish he would be in a more stacked heat. I predict 1:47 but I bet he is capable of 1:46 low or high 1:45 with a better field.

1:45 for an opener?

So a 2648 10k guy is also America's best 800 guy or close to it?

No one in the country has run 1:45 this year and you want a 10k to open at that? His pb is 1:50.00 outdoors and 1:49.97 indoors.

4/20 was a few weeks ago.

If he opens in 1:45 - a 5 second pb - then everyone in his countyr should demand the FBI track him 24/7 and figure out what how much he sleeps, drinks, eats, etc as we all need to do that. Better than the fountain of youth.

Rupp is the rabbit. Truth.

Ritz and Puskedra in the Twighlight 3000.

http://www.goducks.com/downloads2/742902.htm?ATCLID=878142&SPSID=4367&SPID=243&DB_OEM_ID=500

Flotrack is announcing that this is an official American Record attempt. It's on!

stuff you like to pee out wrote:

so your saying rupp peaked for his indoor mile in january. then he peaked again in march. and he will peak again in august?

1:45.

I'm saying Galen along with nearly every other athlete coached by Alberto Salazar is on a 26 week cycle. Two 26 week cycles per year that includes 2 weeks completely off and 2 weeks of easy jogging at the beginning of the cycle.

And no, Rupp did not peak in January. You would know this if you listened to interviews given by Salazar. He was peaking for a 5k in europe that was canceled and instead ran a 3k in which he broke the american record and put himself ahead of bekele on the all time list.

Anyone who thinks he is running 1:45 in early May (read: you) is fvcking retarded.

Quick - how many times did Alan Webb break 1:45

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Hint: Less than twice.

id say best case scenario rupp hits 147.5.

rojo wrote:

The Waterboy wrote:

I wish he would be in a more stacked heat. I predict 1:47 but I bet he is capable of 1:46 low or high 1:45 with a better field.

1:45 for an opener?

So a 2648 10k guy is also America's best 800 guy or close to it?

No one in the country has run 1:45 this year and you want a 10k to open at that? His pb is 1:50.00 outdoors and 1:49.97 indoors.

4/20 was a few weeks ago.

If he opens in 1:45 - a 5 second pb - then everyone in his countyr should demand the FBI track him 24/7 and figure out what how much he sleeps, drinks, eats, etc as we all need to do that. Better than the fountain of youth.

1:39.99

crazy raisin wrote:

Flotrack is announcing that this is an official American Record attempt. It's on!

seriously lol'd

A Duck wrote:

No doubt he is capable of 143.high

Stop jacking my handle you tool.

Truust Me wrote:

5 will get you 10 that Centro is a DNS.

According to his twitter...you can gather that he isn't running.

rojo wrote:

The Waterboy wrote:

I wish he would be in a more stacked heat. I predict 1:47 but I bet he is capable of 1:46 low or high 1:45 with a better field.

1:45 for an opener?

So a 2648 10k guy is also America's best 800 guy or close to it?

No one in the country has run 1:45 this year and you want a 10k to open at that? His pb is 1:50.00 outdoors and 1:49.97 indoors.

4/20 was a few weeks ago.

If he opens in 1:45 - a 5 second pb - then everyone in his countyr should demand the FBI track him 24/7 and figure out what how much he sleeps, drinks, eats, etc as we all need to do that. Better than the fountain of youth.

Rojo got trolled.

BTW, FTR, I don't think I've ever predicted a time here for anyone ever.

I find it kind of lame...there are so many factors, I prefer to just...you know...watch the races and be entertained.

I will remember this post DR. And when he someday decides to run a fast 8 and breaks 1:46 I will demand payment.

Rupp is leading with 200m to go.. and then Centro kicks past him out of embarrassment just barely getting the win.

The Ban Man wrote:

I will remember this post DR. And when he someday decides to run a fast 8 and breaks 1:46 I will demand payment.

That will NEVER happen so I'm not worried. Anyone who thinks Rupp can run 1:45 is an idiot and doesn't understand running.

I doubt Rupp and Centro are doing pacing duties in an 800.

That would mean going out in 50. or 51.

We're probably looking at 1:48 range.

My first thought for Rupp was 1:49.

Then there will be a serious workout after the race.

Centro ran a 2:53 1200 at Penn so he had a bit of a shakeout already.

I don't think either one have their legs ready for speed at all right now and this 800 is a step towards getting them there.

I included all the points you come back with in my original argument. An argument about Rupp's 800m ability based on Lagat's would be fallacious, certainly, but that was merely one point to help illustrate what these idiots can't understand (i.e. that you can run very very fast times at say, a mile and 3k, without having world class middle distance speed, based on your aerobic power & specific endurance & strength).

I did not say "because Lagat couldn't run 1:43, neither can Rupp." I outlined why Rupp can't, then offered Lagat as ANOTHER example of a very, very fast runner who nonetheless was not fast at the 800m, just to show that there is precedent.

Whenever there is a discussion on Letsrun about what Lagat would run for 400, etc., it strikes me that the average Letsrunner has no speed. Could Galen run 1:45 if he trained for it? Hell yes.

Somebody make a remark about is he the USA's best 800m runner now? Well, he was the best U.S. miler indoor, and he is supposed to be a 5k/10k guy. Might have had the WL in the indoor mile.

He is not a 5k/10k guy. He is an amazing runner, get over the label. Since he is a 5k/10k guy I bet he could not run a good half, wrong, or a good 26.2.

The guy is like Dick Quax or 2007 Webb. He can do anything well basically. 800ish to marathon, Rupp could post very good if not world class times.

1:46 is Blakenship takes it out hard.