Looks like this tiny piece of ice from a remote region of Peru will magically tell us about WORLD climate changes over the past 2000 years... Ain't pseudo-science amazin'!
Just the term "climate change" so open and shady. I dont think anyone doubts that throughout the millenia the earth's climate changes. It's just that many doubt there is anything humans do that affects it.
Obviously we affect the environment, but we aint changing the weather. When it comes to that we're about as effective as those that built Stonehenge.
How about the fact that the last time we had a month of below average temperatures was in 1985? How is that for evidence supporting the fact that the earth is warming?
Apparently you cant read
The Thompsons realized that the Peruvian cores were similar to ice cores they had retrieved from Tibet and the Himalayas. When they found matches in ice cores taken from opposite sides of Earth, they knew they had "Rosetta Stones" with which to compare other climate histories
cisco wrote:
Just the term "climate change" so open and shady. I dont think anyone doubts that throughout the millenia the earth's climate changes. It's just that many doubt there is anything humans do that affects it.
Obviously we affect the environment, but we aint changing the weather. When it comes to that we're about as effective as those that built Stonehenge.
I see that you have done extensive research and science on the question.
reupublican entertainer wrote:
http://www.weather.com/news/science/environment/revealing-find-peru-ice-cap-20130405Looks like this tiny piece of ice from a remote region of Peru will magically tell us about WORLD climate changes over the past 2000 years... Ain't pseudo-science amazin'!
so lay some "real" science on us....
cisco wrote:
Just the term "climate change" so open and shady. I dont think anyone doubts that throughout the millenia the earth's climate changes. It's just that many doubt there is anything humans do that affects it.
Obviously we affect the environment, but we aint changing the weather. When it comes to that we're about as effective as those that built Stonehenge.
Google "butterfly effect".
"God's word is true. I've come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell. And it's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior. You see, there are a lot of scientific data that I've found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth. I don't believe that the earth's but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That's what the Bible says.
"And what I've come to learn is that it's the manufacturer's handbook, is what I call it. It teaches us how to run our lives individually, how to run our families, how to run our churches. But it teaches us how to run all of public policy and everything in society. And that's the reason as your congressman I hold the Holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I'll continue to do that."
cisco wrote:
Just the term "climate change" so open and shady. I dont think anyone doubts that throughout the millenia the earth's climate changes. It's just that many doubt there is anything humans do that affects it.
Obviously we affect the environment, but we aint changing the weather. When it comes to that we're about as effective as those that built Stonehenge.
Right on dude! Fight the MAN! Stonehenge and all that... Thanks for clearing up the science!
Let's Contemplate wrote:
Apparently you cant read
The Thompsons realized that the Peruvian cores were similar to ice cores they had retrieved from Tibet and the Himalayas. When they found matches in ice cores taken from opposite sides of Earth, they knew they had "Rosetta Stones" with which to compare other climate histories
Oh, come on. If you're going to insist on "reading" and "thinking" you're going to change the whole vibe around here.
Ronnie Reagan believed that trees pollute the air.
Seriously, the only ones who "believe" in manmade global warming are those to use it to force political and governmental controls on people. The real scientific community knows that we are now cycling into a cooling trend which will be followed by warming, cooling forever. I'm sure man made influences have some small rather insignificant impact on global temps but nothing the likes of Al the fraud Gore and his Ilk would like us to believe. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/
Given that the whole earth was covered in water above the highest mountains for the better part of a year, wouldn't the coldness in the arctic circles cause huge ice caps that would melt and break off over the period of millenia?
Duuuuuhb wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/
"The Heartland Institute has effectively become the international headquarters of the climate realists, . . ."
Thanks for the link. It's good to know that "The Onion" has some competition.
Back in the 1970's that was the ecological "terror". We were heading into another Ice Age! Then Global Warming, not Climate Change.. same song different dance.
cisco wrote:
Back in the 1970's that was the ecological "terror". We were heading into another Ice Age! Then Global Warming, not Climate Change.. same song different dance.
So, you have pointed out that you do not know how to tell the difference between pop culture and science.
Congratulations!
I can show a picture of snow covering my lawn last week and the full bloom of weeds this week of 90 degree heat.
cisco wrote:
Back in the 1970's that was the ecological "terror". We were heading into another Ice Age! Then Global Warming, not Climate Change.. same song different dance.
In a decade marked by the formation of the US EPA, the phase outs of DDT, leaded gasoline, and CFCs, passage of the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, the Endangered Species Act, the Marine Mammal Protection Act, the Love Canal incident resulting in the EPA "Superfund", recognition of widespread PCB pollution, and the Three Mile Island incident, who can forget that pivotal moment when they flipped to page 86 of Time magazine and read that article speculating on the possibility of a coming ice age?
All you have to do is produce for me ONE climate change skeptic who isn't already ideologically opposed to government intervention in the economy for the public good and I would listen. Why does every single climate change denier have a pre-existing commitment to an extreme free market ideology? They should be completely separate questions. Could it not be that there is climate change AND that meddling in the economy is problematic?
Why should belief in climate change (an EMPIRICAL question) be almost perfectly predictive of a ton of unrelated ideological questions?
What about the fact that we haven't had a month of below average temps since 1985? How's that for cooling?
Duuuuuhb wrote:
Seriously, the only ones who "believe" in manmade global warming are those to use it to force political and governmental controls on people. The real scientific community knows that we are now cycling into a cooling trend which will be followed by warming, cooling forever. I'm sure man made influences have some small rather insignificant impact on global temps but nothing the likes of Al the fraud Gore and his Ilk would like us to believe.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/