Renato.
I guess that you and all the post take the debate to ONE SINGLE AND WRONG direction. The highest percent of the doping among top runners is not to enhance the performance or WORLD RECORD OR INDIVIDUAL BEST PERFORMANCE. THE DRUG IS TAKE JUST TO GET THE BEST PLACE IN COMPETITION. Sometimes when the runner is still out of shape but got a compromise on an interesting competition.
Sorry, but this is your argument before or after 2001 is tricky. Your argument is this. If the world best were done AFTER 2001 you say that this proves that ther´s not drugs on that performances because the drug was in between 1990 and 2000. But when the world best performances are´t done AFTER 2001 you got the argument that the reason is that the training methodology for that event specialties doesn´t improve long ago.
One aspect is your individual option to not use drugs – ANY KIND, I respect and I trust on you, or who else I can trust ? I guess that if you don´t you shall fight those that suspect or false accusations over you.
Other different aspect is your continuous deny that DRUGS ENHANCE THE PERFORMANCE.
Look. As a start point I´m not focused on individual performance, or what particular kind of drug does or don´t. I´m not focus on EPO. Today is EPO, in the past was amphetamines and tomorrow will be something we really don´t know but some people are actual searching and working to create new drugs, you know that.
I guess that out of your genuine and sincere individual option to not use drugs, just by your scientific knowledge of our beloved sport you may assume that this sport is full of drug use and in the PAST TILL TODAY SOME PERFORMANCES AND SOME RESULTS WERE/ARE TOTALLY FALSE THE WAY AREN`T JUST THE CONSEQUENCE OF TALENT AND TRAINING ENHANCE. That wouldn´t not put you down, but would put you up. Honest people would think “we don´t know the extent of drugs in athletics in general and in middle to long distance in particular. But Renato primes for his genuinity and we got admiration because at the same time he denounces some drug scenarios, he doesn´t use it.
This debate was been simple focused about how to maximize the performance by the use of drugs, when IT´s a FACT THAT THE DRUF USE IS MAINLY TO WIN AND GET THE BEST IN COMPETITIONS WUITHOUT THE INTENTION TO BREAK THE WORD RECORD OR THE INDIVIDUAL PERSONAL BEST.
I show you the word best performances and I might start by the woman, and from the point we know that the DRUG USE IS NOT CONFESSED (it´s a fact) there it´s just necessary to got GOOD SENSE, nothing more than good sense and some knowledge of this sport to be aware that ALL OF THE WORLD RECORDS AND WORLD BEST WOMAN PERFORMANCES FROM 100m to the 3000m and some of the best 5000m, 10000m ALL WERE DONE WITH DRUG AID. It´s not enough for you claim your innocence, it´s necessary to judge that THIS OUR RUNNING SPORT IS FULL OF DRUG USE.
WR 100 Metres 10.49 0.0 Florence Griffith-Joyner 16/07/1988 – 24 years ago !
2 - 10.61 Lavardo Smith 10/06/2007 – the second world all time best 19 years later than FJ Griffith, still 0.12secs slower than JF.JGriffith
3 - 10.65 A 1.1 Marion Jones 12/09/1998 – the third world all time best is from Marion Jones that we know that was done with drugs !
WR 200 Metres 21.34 1.3 Florence Griffith-Joyner 29/09/1988 – almost 25 years ago !
2 - 21.62 A -0.6 Marion Jones 11/09/1998 – Once again the second world all time best that is still 0.28secs slower than Griffith, is who else but Marion Jones, that we now know that she did all that with drugs !
WR 400 Metres 47.60 Marita Koch 06/10/1985 – 27 years ago
2 - 47.99 Jarmila Kratochvílová 10/08/1983 – second best is older than the Kratochvílov world record. 29 years ago., done by the same runner that is the 800m WR recordist since 1983.
WR 800 Metres 1:53.28 Jarmila Kratochvílová 26/07/1983 – 29 years ago
2 - 1:53.43 Nadezhda Olizarenko 27/07/1980 – Second best done 32 years ago ! ! !
3 - 1:54.01 Pamela Jelimo 29/08/2008 – Pamela Jelimo is the third best , and we needed to wait 28 years ago for someone from modern training comes close to the 800m WR, but still 0.34 slower. During almost 30 years, hundreds of runners, like Maria Mutola and many others world top super female runners tried the WR but no one is still closer of the world record from 1983.
WR 1500 Metres 3:50.46 Yunxia Qu 11/09/1993 – done 19 years ago !
(1500m ranking by event performance)
1 - 3:50.98 Bo Jiang CHN 13/03/1977 1 Shanghai 18/10/1997
2- 3:51.34 Yinglai Lang CHN 22/08/1979 2 Shanghai 18/10/1997
3 - 3:51.92 Junxia Wang CHN 09/01/1973 2 Beijing 11/09/1993
4 - 3:52.47 Tatyana Kazankina URS 17/12/1951 1 Zürich 13/08/1980
5 - 3:53.91 Lili Yin CHN 11/11/1979 3 Shanghai 18/10/1997
6 - 3:53.96 Paula Ivan ROU 20/07/1963 1 Seoul 01/10/1988
7 - 3:53.97 Lixin Lan CHN 14/02/1979 4 Shanghai 18/10/1997
8 - 3:54.23 Olga Dvirna URS 11/02/1953 1 Kyiv 27/07/1982
9 - 3:54.52 Ling Zhang CHN 13/04/1981 5 Shanghai 18/10/1997
10 - 3:55.0 Tatyana Kazankina 1 Moskva 06/07/1980
11 - 3:55.01 Lixin Lan 1h2 Shanghai 17/10/1997
12 - 3:55.07 Yanmei Dong CHN 16/02/1977 6 Shanghai 18/10/1997
13 - 3:55.30 Hassiba Boulmerka ALG 10/07/1968 1 Barcelona 08/08/1992
14 - 3:55.33 Süreyya Ayhan TUR 06/09/1978 1 Bruxelles 05/09/2003
15 - 3:55.38 Yunxia Qu 2h2 Shanghai 17/10/1997
16 - 3:55.47 Ling Zhang 3h2 Shanghai 17/10/1997
17 - 3:55.60 Süreyya Ayhan 1 Zürich 15/08/2003
1 8 - 3:55.68 Yuliya Fomenko Chizhenko RUS 30/08/1979 1 Paris Saint-Denis 08/07/2006
19 - 3:55.82 Yanmei Dong 4h2 Shanghai 17/10/1997
20 - 3:56.0 Tatyana Kazankina 1 Podolsk 28/06/1976
21 - 3:56.14 Zamira Zaitseva URS 16/02/1953 2 Kyiv 27/07/1982
22 - 3:56.18 Maryam Yusuf Jamal BRN 16/09/1984 1 Rieti 27/08/2006
23 - 3:56.22 Paula Ivan 1 Zürich 17/08/1988
24 - 3:56.31 Dong Liu CHN 24/12/1973 5h2 Shanghai 17/10/1997
25 - 3:56.43 Elena Soboleva RUS 03/08/1982 2 Paris Saint-Denis 08/07/2006
Amazing that in the 1500m, 25 all time world best in the ranking of event performances, 20 were done in the past century, and from those 21world´s best were done by Chinese, Ex-USSR and ex-east European countries.
3000 Metres 8:06.11 Junxia Wang 11/09/1993
8:06.11 Junxia Wang CHN 09/01/1973 1 Beijing 13/09/1993
8:12.18 Yunxia Qu CHN 25/12/1972 2 Beijing 13/09/1993
8:12.19 Junxia Wang 1h2 Beijing 12/09/1993
8:12.27 Yunxia Qu 2h2 Beijing 12/09/1993
8:16.50 Linli Zhang CHN 06/03/1973 3 Beijing 13/09/1993
8:19.78 Liyan Ma CHN 03/11/1968 3h2 Beijing 12/09/1993
8:21.26 Liyan Ma 4 Beijing 13/09/1993
8:21.42 Gabriela Szabo ROU 14/11/1975 1 Monaco 19/07/2002
8:21.64 Sonia O'Sullivan IRL 28/11/1969 1 London 15/07/1994
8:21.84 Lirong Zhang CHN 03/03/1973 5 Beijing 13/09/1993
8:22.06 Linli Zhang 1h1 Beijing 12/09/1993
8:22.20 Paula Radcliffe GBR 17/12/1973 2 Monaco 19/07/2002
8:22.44 Lirong Zhang 2h1 Beijing 12/09/1993
8:22.62 Tatyana Kazankina URS 17/12/1951 1 Leningrad 26/08/1984
8:23.23 Edith Masai KEN 04/04/1967 3 Monaco 19/07/2002
8:23.26 Olga Yegorova RUS 28/03/1972 1 Zürich 17/08/2001
8:23.75 Olga Yegorova 1 Paris Saint-Denis 06/07/2001
8:23.96 Olga Yegorova 1 Roma 29/06/2001
8:24.19 Gabriela Szabo 2 Zürich 17/08/2001
8:24.31 Gabriela Szabo 1 Paris 29/07/1998
8:24.51 Meseret Defar ETH 19/11/1983 1 + Bruxelles 14/09/2007
Maserat Defar is only the recent one to go to the world top ten. However to do trust that Tatyana Kazankina did just 0.42 slower than Paula Radcliff in the years of 84 ? ! ? ! almost 30 years ago ?
Mesarat Defar doesn´t uses a rich methodology, bestbetter methodology than Tatayana Kazankina ?
10,000 Metres 29:31.78 Junxia Wang 13/09/1993
29:31.78 Junxia Wang CHN 09/01/1973 1 Beijing 08/09/1993
29:53.80 Meselech Melkamu ETH 27/04/1985 1 Utrecht 14/06/2009
Meselech Melkamu and all the best 10000m runners after 1993, 20 years past on, no one got talent and rich training methodology to be better than Wang Junxia ? I know that the 10000m track got less and less frequency. But anyhow 20 years after, no one still closer or beats Wang Junxia ? ? ?
I guess that out of your genuine and sincere individual option to not use drugs, just by your scientific knowledge of our beloved sport you may assume that this sport is full of drug use and in the PAST TILL TODAY SOME PERFORMANCES AND SOME RESULTS WERE/ARE FALSE THE WAY AREN`T JUST THE CONSEQUENCE OF TALENT AND TRAINING ENHANCE. That wouldn´t not put you down, but would put you up. Honest people would think “we don´t know the extent of drugs in athletics in general and in middle to long distance in particular. But Renato primes for his genuinity and we got admiration because at the same time he denounces some drug scenarios, he doesn´t use it.