Socal cush, have you ever considered using PEDs?
Socal cush, have you ever considered using PEDs?
no.
but i was once offered hgh by a doctor NOT affiliated with smtc, but well-know in the t&f world (one of his patients was famously caught shortly after) the weeks before the 96 trials because i had a viral and bacterial infection. he suggested it would "only get me back to normal," hence, not an advantage. not sure it was even illegal at the time, but i knew then as i know now that sicknesses and injuries are part of the game, and part of the risks you take when you train at that level...
now, as a masters runner, i can't imagine why i'd want to. if i wanted fame (beyond an occasional letsrun thread), glory (beyond being some random dude doing push-ups in a race), and wealth (beyond the occasional barely 4 digit prize money), i'd do better as a vegas call-girl...
Congrats on the race! Makes me feel better about getting my butt kicked by you every year at Villa Park.
socal cush wrote:
no.
but i was once offered hgh by a doctor NOT affiliated with smtc, but well-know in the t&f world (one of his patients was famously caught shortly after) the weeks before the 96 trials because i had a viral and bacterial infection. he suggested it would "only get me back to normal," hence, not an advantage. not sure it was even illegal at the time, but i knew then as i know now that sicknesses and injuries are part of the game, and part of the risks you take when you train at that level...
now, as a masters runner, i can't imagine why i'd want to. if i wanted fame (beyond an occasional letsrun thread), glory (beyond being some random dude doing push-ups in a race), and wealth (beyond the occasional barely 4 digit prize money), i'd do better as a vegas call-girl...
So you have consider it?
socal cush wrote:
no.
now, as a masters runner, i can't imagine why i'd want to.
...i'd do better as a vegas call-girl...
older runner's want to, not because of money, because of ego and reading good things about themselves.
fast times are an ego stroke, true for runners of all ages.
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Great job. I see you at some road races, I've beat you in some, but I think you would destroy me at any distance.
3:48.53 ESP D.O.B. 16.07.1961
Monterrey 20.06.2008
So he was almost 47 when he ran 3.48
Jesus Borrego Llamas>>>>socal cush.
taste in music wrote:
socal cush wrote:...i'd do better as a vegas call-girl...
So you have consider it?
Come on "taste in music", of course socal cush has considerd it. After all, if we're honest with ourselves haven't we all considered becoming vegas call-girls?
Congrats.
For all the negative folks: Masters running is about staying healthy. It is a lot harder than it seems. Remember when Allen Johnson was going to shatter masters 110H records? Didn't do it, did he? Stopped shy of 40. Why? Couldn't stay healthy. Will Lagat? Only time will tell. But the fact is that many good runners don't continue running seriously into their 40s and beyond. This can be for a lot of reasons - injury, motivation, other obligations, etc. But it still has meaning for those who excel and those that care.
"Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda
Cush DID.
Faster than a speeding bullet wrote:
socal cush wrote:no.
now, as a masters runner, i can't imagine why i'd want to.
...i'd do better as a vegas call-girl...
older runner's want to, not because of money, because of ego and reading good things about themselves.
fast times are an ego stroke, true for runners of all ages.
no, i have NOT considered it. just because it was offered to me does not mean i considered it.
as for the ego, again, maybe i just can't relate to who would get an ego boost by "achieving" something through illicit means. but, obviously there are those who do, either through illegal substances or even cutting courses. it just baffles me, and i think i'm actually in the majority here.
so, if you get the sense that i'm proud of my race, i am, but only because i worked my a$$ off to stay healthy and fit...
socalcush wrote:
Faster than a speeding bullet wrote:older runner's want to, not because of money, because of ego and reading good things about themselves.
fast times are an ego stroke, true for runners of all ages.
no, i have NOT considered it. just because it was offered to me does not mean i considered it.
as for the ego, again, maybe i just can't relate to who would get an ego boost by "achieving" something through illicit means. but, obviously there are those who do, either through illegal substances or even cutting courses. it just baffles me, and i think i'm actually in the majority here.
so, if you get the sense that i'm proud of my race, i am, but only because i worked my a$$ off to stay healthy and fit...
Well, and there is the fact that most posters here cannot run 3:55 for 1500 in their primes. I agree that your answer indicates that you were offered it, not that you considered it. You must have known some athletes that either considered it or even used...
If you were a Las Vegas call girl.............
oh nevermind! :)
Will you and Pete be at El Segundo?
This is a ridiculous thread - here's a guy who ran 3:55 at the age of 45. People want to compare him to another athlete outside his realm. So, would all the nay-sayers say that Cush is not as good as Micheal Phelps? Is he better than Mary-Lou Retton? Who cares??? Cush is a guy who has a lot on his plate, and he ran 3:55 for 1500m. We should be happy / proud of a guy still running at 45. These are the people that contribute to the sport. I bet that most of the D-bags writing on this post can't even run 4:00 for the 1500m (let alone run sub-4 in the mile, which only a small portion of us have).
I remember running with Matt Guisto - yeah, I'm sure you will bash him (as many douches love to do on this site), but what he provided the sport was tremendous. He made me a better athlete.
This forum eludes logic.
Great job Cush - I met you once (I was much younger than you), and I think what you've done is great. I'm turning 39 this year, so I hope to achieve what you've done. You're a great inspiration, and that's what masters athletes should be...
That is a crazy fast time for his age.
Here's a video from the 1988 Pac 10 Championships race which included Cushing-Murry finishing in 4th and Trevor Dunbar's dad (to be) in 3rd.
So Cal Pete wrote:
In any case, really happy to see Cush post such a great mark at this age. Goes to show that nice guys don't always finish last ... although Cush came close, running dead last for the first lap-plus of the race before rebounding to finish 13th out of 18. Hey, fastest-ever American for age 45 is still, you know, age 45!
Great job, Cush!!!
Just another win for a guy who is on testosterone replacement.
Yes, this post will be deleted as soon as the first moderator sees it but really this is the truth and no surprise.
That's not Dunbar. Announcer has it wrong. It's an Oregon runner though. Not sure who.
CCM was better after his college days. Much better. Smooth form at 1500m pace.
Hey CCM how much do you weigh compared to your peak days? What was your best at 400m, 800m, 3000m and 5000m?
Nice running at 45! Congrats! What's the world record?
Thanks for the informative replies.
Cush - what's a typical week of training looking like for you these days? Congrats on the great run.
JR
lmb wrote:
It gets geometrically more difficult to train well and recover the older you get, especially when you are in your early forties. Wait and see you young fellows.
Speak for yourself... aging is a biological, not chronological process