17 POSITIVE TESTS FROM ENDURANCE ATHLETES!!.(not released by the IAAF yet) Make your bets here!

mini actor wrote:

anyone ever notice how when rupp finishes is a race he looks totally spent when several of his competitors just before and after him from east Africa look like they just finished 1 lap in training intervals. It is pretty amazing, rupp is dead on the track and they are smiling and jogging after both just ran say 26:50 or 7:34 for example.

And Rupp is foaming at the mouth like Cujo, lol.

Gary Hill made the best comment/compliment of Rupp. He said something like this "the thing I like about Rupp is he just latches on to a pace or a race and doesn't let go."

He gives his best available performance 95% of the time and doesn't bonk.

The kid is tough. And he loves to run and race. But evidently hates tempo runs with a passion.

Spent to the GIlls wrote:

Spent, not in these?

http://media.katu.com/images/120628_galen_rupp_wins_5000_story.jpghttp://www.usatf.org/usatf/files/10/100cd1a3-3278-44b0-824c-3445a7a3a6ac.jpg

Hey dooshwagon, how about q-ing up the videos of those finishes?

A Duck wrote: Hey dooshwagon, how about q-ing up the videos of those finishes?

Oowiweeee.... I'm gonna tell you mommy. No cookies for you in the basement tonight.

The pull away in the 1500 meters I would consider "evidence" or a slight hint that something is wrong here.

Without evidence I meant: For Ex. Robbie Andrews out leans Wheating in a 800 meter race. Then coming back and saying Robbie Andrews is doped.

Cmon now.

Rupp runs great = Doped

Some 16 year old high school kid runs well = Doped.

Any slight sign of doping? In my opinion no! Rupp ran awesome in high school and college. Mary Cain was fast before Salazar.

Taoufik Makhloufi his close was unbelievable. Steve Cram said:‘Where on earth did he get that from? He’s never done anything like that before in his career.’

Hard Evidence for doping: No

Highly suspicious that a guy comes out of no where and wins. He was never on the radar.

Again, I don't think it's right for someone to accuse a runner of doping without evidence. I stand by what I said. After the 1500 meter final in the Olympics, that pull away, was a sign that something was not right.

twotimer wrote:

The pull away in the 1500 meters I would consider "evidence" or a slight hint that something is wrong here.

I stand by what I said. After the 1500 meter final in the Olympics, that pull away, was a sign that something was not right.

Ever heard of Billy Mills? His 10k Oly finish was the same thing. Did he dope before there was dope?

People should be more vocal, speak out for LIFETIME Bans!

One and done. The benefit that one gains off doping doesn't go away over night!

These 17 Athletes should have life time bans. Enough with the 2 year bans. You can still come back after that ban and run great.

The Brojo's have don't a pretty good job telling it how it is. When Mark Block was in a VIP Booth that raises questions.

I know wejo and rojo support the life time bans.

The IAAF and WADA need to come down to earth and not allow any of these athletes to compete...again!

Test them every day.

Lifetime bans.

10 years in prison for cheaters and their coaches.

Forfeit all assets.

His 10k race as not the same thing! Ever seen the race?

Watch the the 10k race of Mills... Watch the 1500 meter race

It's not even in the same league.

There needs to be a ban on ALL artificial training aids. No more thyroid meds, altitude tents, supplements, beet juice extract, ANYTHING. If someone needs meds to live, that is fine, but they should not be allowed to compete. NOP and their ilk have ruined this sport. We can't trust anything anymore.

Waffle wrote:

There needs to be a ban on ALL artificial training aids. No more thyroid meds, altitude tents, supplements, beet juice extract, ANYTHING. If someone needs meds to live, that is fine, but they should not be allowed to compete. NOP and their ilk have ruined this sport. We can't trust anything anymore.

What about hills?

Mills' final 100m was in about 12 seconds, when the 10K WR was 2 minutes slower than it is today. Mills ran the 10k 50 seconds faster then he ever ran the 10k before. 50 SECONDS FASTER. 12 SECONDS FINAL 100M.

P.S. Manzano's final 100m of the 1500 was faster than anyone in the race ran. About 12 seconds as well.

Steve Bence, please get back to work and stop venting your crazy on message boards!

olden-timer wrote:

Mills' final 100m was in about 12 seconds, when the 10K WR was 2 minutes slower than it is today. Mills ran the 10k 50 seconds faster then he ever ran the 10k before. 50 SECONDS FASTER. 12 SECONDS FINAL 100M.

P.S. Manzano's final 100m of the 1500 was faster than anyone in the race ran. About 12 seconds as well.

No chance Mills' last 100 was 12 seconds. Remember the 100 starts before the straightaway .

28:12 still in the turn. 28:24 finish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5vOhMwRQwI&html5=1

twotimer wrote:

The pull away in the 1500 meters I would consider "evidence"...

Again, I don't think it's right for someone to accuse a runner of doping without evidence. I stand by what I said. After the 1500 meter final in the Olympics, that pull away, was a sign that something was not right.

But as a hypocritical idiot you did and still are accusing someone of doping without evidence, what don't you and A Duck understand? Giving an opinion is fine, asking others for evidence when not always providing it yourselves makes you both look like hypocritical idiots.

And therein lies the problem, you consider 'The pull away in the 1500 meters... "evidence"' (still), so if you were the LR mod open slather on Makhloufi would be OK, others have argued it's not evidence, who's right? Same with Rupp, Rudisha, Radcliffe, Turkish 1500 women, etc, etc.

Who's going to be Big Brother No1? The Brojos have decided to allow their message board to be open slather, within reason. If you and A Duck don't like it FO and start your own blog/website and censor it the way you see fit.

Mo knows EPO wrote:

So who has unexpectedly cancelled from races and meets within the last month?

Oscar P!!! Killing his girlfriend was just a cover so no one would suspect him of doping.

Hypocrites from Hypocrisy wrote:

Patrick Makau, Mo farah, kenenisa bekele, galen rupp, tadese, asbel kiprop, david rudisha, manzano, bernard lagat, paula radcliffe, t. dibaba, mahkloufi, centrowitz, moses mosop, lawi lalang, levins, cain, lomong

If this was true I wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry. Take Paula out of there and I'd get over it though.

If you guys even have a clue as to what has been going on recently, you would see that the Europeans are really performing a witch hunt of the Kenyan camp.OVER UNDER ODDSREST OF WORLD 0.5KENYA 16.5I think given whats going on, all 17 of these names will be Kenyans or at least someone related to the Kenyan camp and expect a few BIG names to get busted.

on no wrote:

makloufi

rudisha

leo

jager

MakhDaddy - I can guarantee this guy will not be reported with a positive at all. This is that kind of guy that will bring in viewership from the haters and the IAAF can really capatilize on that - basically the posterboy for the americans to hate on.

Rudy - Least suspect of every world record holder at the moment, and given how the 5000 and 200 WR's are right now, I'ld have to say 43.1, 1:41 and 3:26 are weak in comparasion with 1:41 being the weakest. If the Kenyan camp gets a shake-up, don't think he will be one of them.

Manzano - More suspicious than Maklhouffi, but I don't see him as someone who would test positive

Jager - As Malmo has pointed out, part of why he is good at the steeplechase is because of his technique. although I am suspicious of the schumacher group, they are either all clean or all doped up and one positive would KILL that group.