Rupp's 13:37 splits and more info

Great stuff. 80 miles/week will get you part of the way there (although I heard A LOT more in peak weeks) and desire and focus will get you the rest of the way. I am excited that we (the USA) have improved this much since 2000 and I am 100% confident that we will be back to the kind of times that we saw back in the 70's within the next 4 years.

Jman

could he break Nelson\'s 8:36 right now? I think so.

That's an amazingly even race for him. Can't complain at all, he ran that sucker perfect. I'd imagine he could run 8:36 or better, no doubt.

Could he break Rudy Chapa's 10k record?

On McMillan's calculator, it has Rupp at 8:23 for an equivalant performance!! WOW!!

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/cgi-bin/calculations.pl

Imagine if Rupp were to tackle and break Chapa's 10K high school record. That would give him the 3K, 5K AND 10K high school records along with, what was it, a 4:01 mile to boot? And didn't someone say that Rupp's 5K time from yesterday ALSO broke Sanchez's Junior time his frosh year at Georgetown? Absolutely incredible range displayed by Rupp. Would this rank Galen as having the best year of any US high school prep, except possibly for Jim Ryun?

that calculator says bob kennedy should (at his peak) have been able to run a 7:59.2 for two miles.

his pr is 8:11

rojito wrote:

could he break Nelson's 8:36 right now? I think so.

If he went through in 8:41, it shouldnt be a problem in similar conditions. There arent really any 2 mile races with elite competition though.

He went through 3200 in 8:41.8. That's 8:45-8:46 for 2 miles. So it's not quite as clear cut as one might think. Still, I don't think there's any question that this is a better record than Jeff's 2 mile. Still, when it comes to records, you can't compare--you actually have to run them.

Theres no doubt that Rupp could break Nelson's record. He didnt just break the old record but he smashed it. Rupp is also extremely smart to stay under Salazar, I could see him running much faster in the future.

Splits wrote:

Rupp's lap splits: .....66.7....66.1....66.2, 66.5.

Rupp had 4 66+ laps that kept him from the low 13:30's. What's his problem?

Splits wrote:

supplemented by exercises and drills of former George Mason coach John Cook. (Alan Webb also uses these drills as his coach, Scott Raczko, is a former Cook assistant.)"

I'm curious as to what these drills consist of?

rupp ran 120 mile weeks throughout the winter

robinson wrote:

that calculator says bob kennedy should (at his peak) have been able to run a 7:59.2 for two miles.

his pr is 8:11

Bob Kennedy ran 7:30 for 3000m, 60 seconds a lap. Maybe he wouldn't break 8 minutes but I am sure he could have come very close in a perfect race.

with all this talk about his highschool records i have one question...what is the deadline for setting high school records? i mean if he was running in college he would be reporting to his team in a week or two..at what point will he be considered out of high school?

I believe it was 110 miles a week, 40 of which were on an underwater treadmill. 70 miles a week of real running is not all that much. Although I'm certainly no expert, the 40 a week of pool running is probably very beneficial, but I'm not sure I would call it equivalent to 40 miles on land.

Running 13:37, as an 18-year old, after only running for 4-5 years, off of just 70 mpw - Rupp is very talented. He could be a star in 3-4 years. Rupp doesn't get nearly the same publicity, popularity, and talk as Webb or Ritz did, but he's just as good (or at least he ran faster than Ritz did).

Ideally, I think Ritz should a lot train with the Kenyans. But either way, the Oregon Project could be his best domestic choice, especially if the last 2 years are a true indication of his durability.The drill work and modernization (underwater treadmill) of the program could minimize Ritz' future possible stress fractures. It's also apparent that the group's will remain proactive in it's science. For Ritz, that could be a good thing.

Splits wrote:

From Dyestat:

80-mile a week regimen (60 outside and 20 in the pool) supplemented by exercises and drills

Yeah there is no way Ritz should train like the Kenyans, the Kenyans destroy themselves and the ones that are good enough to make it and not get hurt are good, but the US doesn't have enough good runners to just go through Ritz, he needs a much more sensible training plan than the Kenyans advocate.

he(rupp) only started as a sophmore. we could see a major long term career here.

good question here: how long before he breaks 13:00?