We make 250,000/year. I'm not a f***ing billionaire

I can't believe you are even complaining! No vacations@!!!! Holy *#*$& In my profession, education NOBODY will ever make 250K a year. Consider yourself lucky. I just can't stand hearing people like you complain about getting taxed. You make more, so you pay more. I ALSO have 3 kids and I make 65K a year and will have to put them through college on that too, so don't come to us with this **# you rich spoiled little boy. You are banned from this site. You don't deserve to be here, and you probably are a 25 min 5k runner. What a prick.

k24 wrote:

Haha I feel bad for you if you think it comes down to luck. Is that how you justify making 30k a year?

Regarding taxation, yes people in the low to mid 6 figures are screwed in taxes while people making 80k a year scream for more handouts. (I'm guessing you're one of them).

Ooh, ad hominem, you must feel really big and clever to make assumptions like that.

For what its worth I dont make much but that's because I am only a couple of year out of college, but I do work for a big four accountant and my salary is rising exponentially, and yes, I do work long hours. but Ive also seen how college friends who are just as bright and hard working have failed to get jobs for whatever reason- they didn't hit it off with interviewers, they were slightly too late in applying for internships.

I don't really think you should lecture other peope about feeling entitled to be honest.

Again, quality of life.

Raise your kids in bumble, IN or raise your kids in a nice suburb of Chicago.

Not saying people in bumble, IN don't have good lives, but IMO the quality of life the OP is giving his kids is much better.

Does he have to pay for their cars and education, no. But he is helping them immensley for down the road.

My parents paid for my college education. It was approx $120k over 4 years. I came out of college with $0 debt. I lived at home for 2 years while working and saved a lot of money before moving out. There is something to say about parents that help their kids like this. There's also something to say about parents that make their kids get jobs, pay their own education, etc.

Every situation is unique.

And you don't know what the OP does for a living. Maybe he works 80/hr's a week to support his family. I know I make double what any of my friends my age make, but I also work twice as hard and as long. Nobody is just given a big salary, you have to earn it.

99 problems wrote:

I can't believe you are even complaining! No vacations@!!!! Holy *#*$& In my profession, education NOBODY will ever make 250K a year. Consider yourself lucky. I just can't stand hearing people like you complain about getting taxed. You make more, so you pay more. I ALSO have 3 kids and I make 65K a year and will have to put them through college on that too, so don't come to us with this **# you rich spoiled little boy. You are banned from this site. You don't deserve to be here, and you probably are a 25 min 5k runner. What a prick.

To be fair, you don't have to put your kids through college. There are plenty of ways they can pay for it themselves so don't make it sound like a serious necessity. And don't complain about having 3 kids on $65k. You CHOSE to have those kids on that salary.

You're almost in the same boat as him. People that complain about self-imposed expenditures.

You choose to live in the nice, expensive area and you benefited from having wealthy parents so you didn't have tens of thousands of dollars in student load debt when you got out of school. No one is angry with you for any of that.

The part that is bullshit is claiming that $250,000 or $150,000 per year isn't a lot or is difficult to raise a child on. That's complete bullshit. As I wrote earlier, Russom Keflezighi and his wife came to the US with virtually nothing, minimal English and of their nine children, eight went to UCLA, UC Santa Barbara, UC San Diego and the one that didn't go to a UC school had to settle for Stanford.

Just acknowledge you don't need nearly as much money as you're making to enjoy a good life and provide a good environment for your child. That's all.

I did chose to have kids and I do not complain about it at all. I am pointing out that people that make 250K have nothing to complain about. Save your money and you will be okay, we are in no debt at all on that 65K a year. So, I don't complain. We work hard and pay our bills on time, we don't buy what we cannot afford....simple plan...works every time.

Try doing that on $50k a year, stop fecking moaning. Did you pay for your kids to go to school or for priveate seucurity or take your own trash the dump. Pay your taxes and tell your kids to get a part time job and stop leaching of daddy!!

You don't go on holiday because you are a miserable b@stard not because you can't afford it

Most people, regardless of income, do not think they have it easy in terms of finances.

Most people think that those in the economic class above them do, in fact, have it easy, at least relatively speaking.

So if someone who has more money than you complains about finances, you probably get annoyed.

Yet most of us feel that our own complaints about finances are rational and justified.

Of course, to those below us on the economic ladder, our complaints probably sound silly or even offensive. After all, that's how we react when someone above us complains.

So in the great economic ladder of life, the people on each rung are complaining about their own difficulties and, at the same time, telling the douchebags on the rung above them to shutup because they have it easy.

/entire thread summarized

I don't agree that the government is entitled to anyone's money. I would only go along with raising taxes to address the budget if the government reins in spending as well.

Based on this comment, I would say that the reason you only earn $43k a year is obvious - and that it is highly likely you are overpaid.

This thread and seeing how people reasoning makes me very relieved that Obama won.

Let me repeat:

You and "Don't tax the rich" just can't quit with the republican math. Please get out of the bubble and look at hard cold facts.

(1) I'll repeat an earlier post I made and others made that could not get through your bubble but maybe it will this time. Only the income that you earn over $250,000 is taxed at the higher rate. So if you earn $250,050, only $50 of that income will be taxed at a higher rate. Now don't you feel silly whining about that?

(2) There was another president who was an excellent businessman in the private sector before he became president. He believed in lower taxes for the wealthy. He reduced taxes on the very wealthy from 77% to 7%. He also believed the business and Wall Street should not be encumbered by regulation. His name was Calvin Coolidge. Do you know the result of his econmoic policies?

Smooth Daddy wrote:

Higher taxes on the wealthy will affect everyone adversely. All other factors being equal, there will be less capital formation, less business investment and growth, lower profits (affects middle-class shareholders), higher natural interest rates, fewer jobs, fewer products and services and less spending. These are inevitable consequences of taxation.[/quote][/quote]

0/10.

You're rich to most people when the median income in the U.S. is 50,000 and the great majority of Americans can't afford three college tuitions, let alone 1 at a good school, even though they work their tails off as well. You should pay a higher percentage than people who make 50,000 a year or less. BUT, you have earned what you make, and not all people are equally intelligent, even though we are created equal. You make more, because you are also smarter than the median intelligence, and thus more valuable in the marketplace. I feel taxes should be lower across the board, not higher. Ultimately we have a spending problem. These wars we're involved in are sucking us dry. Obama is not the problem unto himself. It's the whole lot of them there in Washington. The Republicans like to spend us into the ground as much as the Dems, though it might be in a different way. 250,000 is rich, don't kid yourself. You are living a life that takes up most of your money and I'm sure you are experiencing the same stress as someone making 50,000, who is also spending almost everything they make. Few have the means, imagination, and smarts you have to ever have what you've earned or the life you have created. Be proud, rich dude.

such a tool, dumb shiet

10/10

Try living off of $1 million per year.

Rent: $48,000/month

Car payments: $10,000/month

That's $700,000 per year right there and we haven't even gotten to utilities, food, education for the kids, vacations, etc.

Sure, I guess maybe not everyone needs to live in Fontvieille, but I think everyone would understand wanting their kids to grow up in a nice part of town. And that $10,000 per month is for two cars (Aston Martin and a Rolls Royce). I don't know how people get on with factory made cars when the hand made ones come with a better piece of mind.

Can you see how $1 million per year isn't that much if you really start to care about your quality of life?

The OP's lifestyle isn't excessive or irresponsible. There's nothing wrong with having five cars (and we don't even know what kind of cars they are!) for a family that large with that kind of income. My family's income is about half of the OP's and we have four cars, one for each parent and one for each adult child. The people who are trying to characterize the OP as being irresponsible to justify taking his money are clearly jealous.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

Try living off of $1 million per year.

Rent: $48,000/month

Car payments: $10,000/month

That's $700,000 per year right there and we haven't even gotten to utilities, food, education for the kids, vacations, etc.

Sure, I guess maybe not everyone needs to live in Fontvieille, but I think everyone would understand wanting their kids to grow up in a nice part of town. And that $10,000 per month is for two cars (Aston Martin and a Rolls Royce). I don't know how people get on with factory made cars when the hand made ones come with a better piece of mind.

Can you see how $1 million per year isn't that much if you really start to care about your quality of life?

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You are such a jealous piece of trash. You're trying to claim the moral high ground, but you don't have it. Successful people have every right to enjoy expensive lifestyles: Fontvielle, Rolls Royce, yacht, $50,000/yr country club membership and whatever else makes them happy. Your opinion as to how much someone else needs is totally irrelevant and you don't deserve to benefit one iota from money taken from those who earn more than you. Love from Canterwood.

Smooth Daddy wrote:

You are such a jealous piece of trash. You're trying to claim the moral high ground, but you don't have it. Successful people have every right to enjoy expensive lifestyles: Fontvielle, Rolls Royce, yacht, $50,000/yr country club membership and whatever else makes them happy. Your opinion as to how much someone else needs is totally irrelevant and you don't deserve to benefit one iota from money taken from those who earn more than you. Love from Canterwood.

I've got no problem spending money earned. My problem is acting life times are tough or that it's hard to have a family off of a six figure income, or that you need hundreds of thousands of dollars to have a decent life.

I will acknowledge this for sure. And I also acknowledge that because I make $150k that I am able to supply my wife, and soon-to-be child, with a nice lifestyle.

If I did lose my job, and couldnt find anything similar, we would probably move to a more affordable area. Completely agree.

My whole point is that you can't fault the OP for providing a nice environment for his family. Can he live in a crappy area in Alabama where his money goes much farther, yes. But he chooses this lifestyle. I don't feel bad for him, yet I would never consider him to be rich.