I see the Knicks and Giants are still playing their home games today while millions of runners who lost their marathon are downtown volunteering their time to help with cleanup efforts. I think we know who has class and who doesn't in this whole argument.
Yes - first it's the NYC marathon - then they will segregate us into ghettos near parks - not allow us to intermarry - and then the trains come.
Those two games are played in two single arenas. The marathon takes placed across the entire city, including the more affected areas.
Millions of runners ?
MediaHatingOnRunnersOnly wrote:
I see the Knicks and Giants are still playing their home games today while millions of runners who lost their marathon are downtown volunteering their time to help with cleanup efforts. I think we know who has class and who doesn't in this whole argument.
Well, not "millions" of runners, but I agree with the sentiment. Plus, the Nets played their opener in Brooklyn last night - to a sold out crowd - including at least one guy from Staten Island because it "never occured to him to miss Saturday's game."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/sports/basketball/nets-opening-day-arrives-but-few-feel-like-celebrating.html?ref=sportsLook, I agree that the race should have been cancelled, but seriously, the hypocrisy is stunning. We all know what's going on here. "Popular," big-money, big-influence = the show must go on.
666 wrote:
Those two games are played in two single arenas. The marathon takes placed across the entire city, including the more affected areas.
Do you know how much energy and security those stadiums employ? The energy consumption for all the lights and media is a lot more than what the marathon was using. Shame on all the fans and players! They should be out donating their time and money to help their fellow New Yorkers, not paying big money for cheap entertainment, right? How can they be out having a care-free time while their fellow New Yorkers suffer, right?
This is a bad comparison. The marathon is worked by mostly volunteers, most of which loat a lot. The ball games are paid employees of the team.
These games don't involve tens of thousands of people walking to the start through a Staten Island neighborhood that hasn't had power for close to a week.
letitdie.com wrote:
666 wrote:Those two games are played in two single arenas. The marathon takes placed across the entire city, including the more affected areas.
Do you know how much energy and security those stadiums employ? The energy consumption for all the lights and media is a lot more than what the marathon was using. Shame on all the fans and players! They should be out donating their time and money to help their fellow New Yorkers, not paying big money for cheap entertainment, right? How can they be out having a care-free time while their fellow New Yorkers suffer, right?
I hope you're trolling. The stadiums are not being run on generators that could be used to help people without power. Turning off power to a stadium is not going to magically provide it to blacked out areas.
Brojos need to stop this ridiculous comparison between the NBA/NFL and the marathon. It's apples to oranges and they're either being deliberately obtuse about it or they're truly deficient.
The Giants and Knicks games do not require shutting down public access to streets and bridges throughout the city. The marathon does.
And because it does, the marathon needs special event permits from the city which the other sporting events do not need.
So that's the answer to your question. It's also the answer to the whining on the front page about why people are allowed to line up for iPad minis - no street and bridge closures needed, no special event permit from the city.
If a big parade through the city was allowed this weekend, then you'd have a valid comparison. As it is, you're just ignoring reality.
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Do it NOW!
The footprint and demands of these events is much smaller than a marathon that goes through all 5 burroughs.
Seriously...
The Giants and Nicks games are not 26 miles long.
..but they r 6 hours long
somebody should point out that the runners would generate revenue for the city *sigh*
sorry folks but the games are not an good comparison.
Its time for runners to stop whining about this and move on.
The race was cancelled due to a terrible hurricane that hit the city only 4 days earlier.
(Just read that sentence out loud.See it doesnt sound unreasonable at all does it?)
One month postponement was the way to go...hey didn't major league baseball shut down ALL OVER THE COUNTRY after 9-11....MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: why is/was a postponement not a viable option??
The marathon being cancelled can be debated, but most of the reasons it did get cancelled is them same reason why Giants and Knick game should have also been cancelled. Big sporting events like these require extra police in area, more traffic and a waste of areas that could be used for other thing. Think of how many people that could have stayed inside stadium instead there was basketball game going on.
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The marathon being cancelled can be debated, but most of the reasons it did get cancelled is them same reason why Giants and Knick game should have also been cancelled. Big sporting events like these require extra police in area, more traffic and a waste of areas that could be used for other thing. Think of how many people that could have stayed inside stadium instead there was basketball game going on.
Can't argue with this.
666 wrote:
Those two games are played in two single arenas. The marathon takes placed across the entire city, including the more affected areas.
That's just splitting hairs. Those people should be out helping the affected area
They are still using energy as well of course you don't really put enery back on a flooded house but that's the argument the morons were using. Using up the police was a valid concern but you could have replaced most of those positions with volunteers
The real reason is that if these games were not cancelled the millions of lard asses who watch these games would complain
Our club recently held a half marathon with 4,000 runners on a Sunday morning. The organiser has had to go to all sorts of council meetings to see if it would be allowed to be run again next year due to objections or concerns about a couple of roads being closed
Last year the whole area was a riot zone while most of the police did or could do (because their hands were tied) nothing
Anyone stupid enough to pay $260 or $370 to run has limited sympathy from me but its the principle of the authorities stopping lawful activities
If I'd just lost my house I'd would hardly bother if some runners went past it. I notice none of the actual victims were complaining
So what did you do to shut down the games? Did you email or call the Mayor's office? Did you start an online petition? How about the Giants' and Knicks' management, did you contact them? Did you call the New York Post and express your disgust at their hypocrisy?
I'm not certain that many of those people hang out round here, so if you are expecting them to cancel games because you started this thread, I think you are going to be disappointed.
People on here are upset that the marathon was cancelled, but (if you are one of those people) shouldn't you be asking yourself why you didn't mount a pro-marathon campaign as effective as those who wanted the race shut down? Bitching on a small-time message board in a backwater of the internet isn't nearly enough - the race was shut down because YOU failed to act - no more, no less. Leadership (the Johnsons perhaps?) was lacking, but none of you stepped in to fill the void, and none of you are doing anything effective about the sports events that are still able to take place.
So, if these games offend you so much, either do something about it, or shut up.