I did 17:18, which "won", but in those days (1958) we had to do it with a pack (can't recall how heavy).
GG
I did 17:18, which "won", but in those days (1958) we had to do it with a pack (can't recall how heavy).
GG
Still on active duty....
In the mid-1990s I did Officer Basic Camp at Fort Sam in San Antonio as a commissioned 2LT in the Army. Our physical fitness test was an embarrassment compared to what Marines had to do, as was our overall training. There were about 350 of us in this particular program, and I did my 2-mile run in 10:13 on a half-mile track later reported by Gary Brimmer to be 25 meters long per lap (way to go, US Army Corps of Engineers) so that was more like a 9:55. At the time I was in about 15:30 track shape, but it was about 90 degrees with 90 percent humidity even at 5 in the morning in that shithole and I had just done about 107 push-ups and 104 sit-ups in two minutes each. I could also do 20 or 21 pull-ups at the time, about three times as many as I could now, but that meant nothing. That test is set up for wiry dudes like me anyway. My overall score was 371 and that was second to a former Navy Seal who scored 387 -- my marks were intrinsically superior to his but I was 25 and he was 34 or 35. No one broke 11:00 but me and the only guys who came close were a half-dozen former West Pointers who actually took the camp and themselves seriously. You should have seen some of these idiots trying to go basic land nav wandering around in slow, frantic circles and BOLOing everything they could. Took some of them about 10 minutes to take apart a frigging M16, much less point one in the right direction.
I don't think 3 mile runs, gym training, and stunts acts are in the least what Marines are intended by Congress for when the were formed.
Marines on deployments are sent on single fire team missions that are the riskiest by far in all of the Pentagon's combat infantry outfits.
Many old Marines I know, who served only in peacetime, sustained crippling injuries from hand-to-hand fight training, live fire accidents, and bizzare physical torture rituals which Congress has only allowed the Marines to use since the 1700's.
People in this thread are trying too hard to make it sound like it's the toughest thing in the world. To be honest, as long as you're not a fattie or a total pu*sy who breaks down from any confrontation or a total fattie, OCS isn't that hard to pass.
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3 mile runs are the least worry if your child joins the marines. You have to prepare yourself for the death of your child which is what happens more for marines. The other branches are very safe in comparison.
For those that have successfully navigated the rigor of Boot Camp -- " well done ". For the whining weenies, " goodbye ". Boot Camp works. If you doubt it just ask any Marine Combat Vet that served in and were part of the fighting in WW II, Korea, Vietnam, Greneda, Panama, and or currently SW Asia, etc.
The Marine Corps is it for the long haul. We have been since 10 NOV 1775.
" Let's be damned sure that no man's ghost will ever say, " if your training program had only done it's job ". The aforementioned quotation taken from the movie, " The D.I. "
SF,
MGSGT Ernst Becker
USMC/USMCR
RVN 66/67
here is something from UK army parachute regiment
Run
1 1/2 m under 8 mins
6 miles under 35 mins
10 miles under 60 mins
Swim
750m under 11 mins
1500m under 24 mins
3000m under 50 mins
Do people really just search years old threads to bump and troll.
I'm in the Army. Ran the 2 mile in 11:05 in basic. Fastest in the Battalion (1200). Since then, I've never lost the 2 mile on an APFT and have always had the fastest time in the company. 13:00 is max. Break 12 and you're super human.
Alan
mike mcmap wrote:
Rme wrote:I don't think there has been a marine faster than Dan Browne.
Not faster, but more successful: Billy Mills, 1L USMCR.
What part of "fastest" don't you understand? Mills was not faster. Maybe you are a "speedreader" and didn't study "comprehension".
How do you guys remember what you ran in boot camp ?
Parris Island in the early 80s kept no records and the DI's I had didn't reward the fast guys but the slowest were in deep trouble. I do remember coming in first but the first place guy had to run and find your platoon member who was in last place and help him to the finish line.
I don't think the Marine Corps keeps an official record of fastest 3 mile. I ran on the MC track and field, marathon, and CC teams with Charlie Crvk, Randy Hoyals, and Farley Simon; all sub 30 min 10 K runners. Farley was my training partner. Charlie won the CISM short course (5K) CC, beating all the Kenyans. Charlie was a sub 14 min 5 K runner. Farley and GySgt Estrada did 5 back to back 300 PFTs. The best Armed Forces runner during our time was Lt. Donahue, USN; 28:30 at Peachtree; 5th place. He won many Armed Forces Championships CC and track. In 1988 Farley was a DI and he had a recruit that he told me about, who ran 14:15.
Wrong. Check out the Armed Forces Championships, competition is at higher lever than NCAA Division I. Thousands of officers went to college on running scholarships or ran for one of the Military Academies, and there are only 2 spots for each event for track for each service. Capt Charlie Crvk, USMC won the CISM 5K CC, beating all the Kenyans, to include the Kenyans who were on their Olympic team. I use to skip the MC Marathon as a Marine; placed 12th among Americans at Boston. My 5 K PR is 14:31; and there were half of dozen Marines faster than me. GySgt Farley Simon, 2:17 marathon, was a DI when he told me of one of his recruits ran 14:15.
Cool story for y'all.
I was in 4:30 mile shape in college, and I was running on the indoor track by myself, finishing up a pretty hard workout at a pretty good pace when a guy wearing fatigues and shiny army boots comes and falls in directly behind me.
Well, there was no way I was going to let a guy in army boots get past me, and I wasn't going to stop until he did. So I sped up.
At the quarter mile he's still with me, so I sped up again.
He's with me at the half. I'm really hurting now, but he's still there. The pace is easily sub-5, and I can't keep it up for long.
3/4, and he's not fading. I figure I can make one more quarter mile, and I put everything I got left into it. He doesn't drop off the pace.
Coming up to the mile, he comes right up to my shoulder, and I'm thinking this guy is going to blow by me. Right as we hit the mile point of where he joined me we both break stride at the exact same moment.
I asked him what kinds of times he ran when he wasn't wearing army boots, but he didn't seem to know. That guy did a sub 5 mile in boots, so I know it can be done.
Was it for an an IST?
The United States Marines? You're talking about the world's most nutty warfighting society ;-)
Was that 1988?
I jogged a 17:10 in first phase. Chunked up during boot camp, couldn't even break 18:00 on the final PFT.
A Marine I went to comm school with told me there was a recruit who ran cross for Arizona that went under 15:00 in his platoon.
Was in the reserves with another college runner who said he ran something in the low 15s. Based on his road race results, I have no reason to doubt him.
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Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
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