Lance Armstrong wins Superfrog half iron tri in 3:49

Oh jeez, get a life. He's not doped for years.

Wow, does he look, um, thick.

Not the usual skinny Lance. Been, obviously, hitting the Shiner Bocks a little hard lately...

asdsadcf wrote:

any other ST'ers out here? As you may know, Dan has banned all discussion of Lance. Where are we going to discuss him and the USADA stuff that comes out soon?

It's been fun, but there is just too much negative energy here and too many new a$$holes who post bull$hit and lots of great people who used to post all the time who have left or gone underground. I'm out. Life is too short. I'll be in kona. Hope to see some of you there. Paulo knows how to find me.

I beat Lance in 2008 Boston Marathon. Would he have been on Edgar?

Good for Lance! This proves once and for all that he's been clean all along!

Nice old Skool ST.

LETS MF RUN wrote:

asdsadcf wrote:

any other ST'ers out here? As you may know, Dan has banned all discussion of Lance. Where are we going to discuss him and the USADA stuff that comes out soon?

there is a reason he banned it, Lance discussion is beating a dead horse. nobody has anything new to bring to the table; if you think he doped you're convinced, and if you think he did't you're convinced too

I am not sure of the point of your post. I am fully aware of why he banned it. Did any of my post indicate that I was not so aware?

Regardless of the reasons, I still like to hear about, and discuss Lance. So my question remains, is there a similar forum where Lance news and discussion is hosted?

One good reason to ban discussion is because pretty much NO ONE knows what they are talking about. Without discussing the issue, here is a neutral example:

For example, he never did drugs (he was the most drug-tested athlete in history). He was NOT accused of taking drugs. What they are accusing him of is blood-doping -- taking his own blood and then putting it back in. Those sorts of things. Not steroids, not stimulants, none of that. See? No one knows even this. So why discuss anything about whether you think he "did" or not -- or anything else??

Anyway, yes, lets not discuss it. I got the impression all his teammates and everyone else was doing it (too?) anyway, and he still beat all them pretty bad... so what is the point? It is just a stupid, stupid dismal media circus and a sad thing.

Moving on.... I for one DON'T like to discuss this issue and would advise people to stay HERE and not discuss it!

It is cool that Lance seems to be a good runner though. I like that.

Spiralsun1 wrote:

It is cool that Lance seems to be a good runner though. I like that.

Because he ran 1:19 over 11.5 miles? We all know how triathletes measure their course.

realIy??? wrote:

Spiralsun1 wrote:

It is cool that Lance seems to be a good runner though. I like that.

Because he ran 1:19 over 11.5 miles? We all know how triathletes measure their course.

Really? Can't sports America find something different than bashing a former great athlete who has, legally not tested + 4 banned substances - despite what all those 'in the know' believe!!!

fsadfsf3353535ed wrote:

For everyone wondering about the speedo - He's going OLDSCHOOL TRIATHLON ATTIRE. Thats what he, and other pros, wore at the beginning of his triathlon career. pretty awesome actually.

well, I think most of us got that. And yeah, it's kinda funny, but both in a laughing with him, AND laughing at him kinda way, because, frankly, it was a silly look back then (in the 80's), and it's silly now.

(but I guess he wanted to show his sense of humor and that he isn't too uptight over what's going on in his life and career right now)

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

fsadfsf3353535ed wrote:

For everyone wondering about the speedo - He's going OLDSCHOOL TRIATHLON ATTIRE. Thats what he, and other pros, wore at the beginning of his triathlon career. pretty awesome actually.

well, I think most of us got that. And yeah, it's kinda funny, but both in a laughing with him, AND laughing at him kinda way, because, frankly, it was a silly look back then (in the 80's), and it's silly now.

(but I guess he wanted to show his sense of humor and that he isn't too uptight over what's going on in his life and career right now)

Your assumption is wrong. I talked to probably 10 or 12 guys about this (runners themselves) who had no idea what I was talking about. Try again buddy.

Spiralsun1 wrote:

One good reason to ban discussion is because pretty much NO ONE knows what they are talking about. Without discussing the issue, here is a neutral example:

For example, he never did drugs (he was the most drug-tested athlete in history). He was NOT accused of taking drugs. What they are accusing him of is blood-doping -- taking his own blood and then putting it back in. Those sorts of things. Not steroids, not stimulants, none of that. See? No one knows even this.

...apart from the testosterone pills and EPO the USADA report will be accusing him of on a regular basing from 1st Agust 1998.

Anyway, yes, lets not discuss it. I got the impression all his teammates and everyone else was doing it (too?) anyway, and he still beat all them pretty bad... so what is the point?

Everybody else at the front was doing it. If they weren't. Those at the back may have been able to win fairly.

UCI would ban any cyclist who was found to have a higher than 50% reading of hermatocrit. Even amongst the dopers, a cyclist who was at 40% could make a much greater improvement from using EPO than a cyclist who was already at 48%.

The argument that 'it's fine because everybody else was doping' is lame one.

asdsadcf wrote:

any other ST'ers out here? As you may know, Dan has banned all discussion of Lance. Where are we going to discuss him and the USADA stuff that comes out soon?

Yes, sir. Just got banned actually for saying that i was dissapointed with how far people would go to defend a cheat and a liar while spitting on the integirty of clean sport.

Ya I'm one for proof. Show me the results not what 12 people said. Most haters are goin off what the media says. Sheep following the heard.

triathlete.... wrote:

asdsadcf wrote:

any other ST'ers out here? As you may know, Dan has banned all discussion of Lance. Where are we going to discuss him and the USADA stuff that comes out soon?

Yes, sir. Just got banned actually for saying that i was dissapointed with how far people would go to defend a cheat and a liar while spitting on the integirty of clean sport.

What web site is this?

I have a spare fifteen minutes to get myself banned.

yes he is still doping.

he is a psychopath, as most politicians are.

What web site is this?

I have a spare fifteen minutes to get myself banned.

forum.slowtwich.com

I could care less if he did or didn't dope..He has stepped up to the plate in helping the fight against cancer and has made everyone care. I haven't seen anyone else spend so much time and dedication into an organization this big that is a former athlete. Most athletes just make their money and leave the sport when they're done.

No matter what they say about him he still has my support. And when will they stop accusing him without proof.