High School Coaches, what is your other job?

abcrunrun wrote:

Oldest running store in America? Where is that?

It is the largest country in the continent of North America. You might know it as the United States of America, but we just call it America.

I run bike tours in a big city, really ham it up, talk up how I live on tips (even though I'm the owner, don't mention that). I subcontract afternoon and early Saturday tours during the season, do my own Sat PM and Sundays, any special day tours, etc. I make enough to live in the back of my shop and ...

Actually, none of this is true. Sorry.

Living the dream wrote:

I found a girl who was smarter than I am(other than marrying me) and I stay home with the kids and coach as well.I might also add that anyone thinking about coaching and doing it right better have a spouse who is supportive. Lots of weekends gone. Saturday meets most the fall and we do long runs Sunday AM most of the season. Plus camp, footlocker, yada, yada, yada. Lots of time away from home.

You wife and I enjoy our Saturday "alone time" (wink, wink!!)

so far it sounds like you need to be a teacher, manage ur own business, or work a low-paying job.

Used to be an engineer. I am retired now for 10 years and find coaching quite rewarding. You don't need to be a teacher to do recruiting. You just have to be proactive.

I was under the impression that you had to be affiliated with the school district to be a head coach at a high school. Maybe that is just New Jersey or a few states? Is this a rule at most states, or is it just unusual that coach isn't also a teacher in the district?

Would definitely like to coach, as volunteering went fairly well, but don't want to be a teacher also. What are the best states to coach and not teach? By that which states have the least restricting rules on practice seasons, and whatever other rules that hinder coaching ability.

runner85 wrote:

I was under the impression that you had to be affiliated with the school district to be a head coach at a high school. Maybe that is just New Jersey or a few states? Is this a rule at most states, or is it just unusual that coach isn't also a teacher in the district?

Would definitely like to coach, as volunteering went fairly well, but don't want to be a teacher also. What are the best states to coach and not teach? By that which states have the least restricting rules on practice seasons, and whatever other rules that hinder coaching ability.

in our state you can be hired on a temporary basis as an emergency coach, which makes you vulnerable to other teachers. otherwise, you can get nationally certified as a coach in your sport and that makes you on a par with other teachers for hiring purposes

Thanks, How do you get nationally certified? Is it like a USATF coaching certification?

Just wanted to take a moment and praise all of you guys who have posted, and countless others who havenot, who keep the sport going. I was a terrible athlete in high school, and yet the experience, due primarily to the selflessness of our coach, was the best thing that happened to me as a teenager. For decades while I was working, I wanted to coach, to give kids the kind of experience I had as a kid. Now I help a terrific young Physics teacher who is the head coach at a public high school in the District of Columbia. I do little more than hold a watch, look after warm-ups and water bottles, and pat kids on the back. And I absolutely love it. Few things in my life have made me happier than having a kid call me "coach." All of you guys do terrific work, and it goes unrecognized.

Racehorse wrote:

I concur. Anybody who wants to coach HS and does not want to be a teacher is not going to have much success with getting the better kids to come out.

Bah, I coached for several years at the high school level while not teaching or working on campus and always had good numbers. Usually around 50 kids. You just have to work harder on recruiting the younger kids at the middle school level for your program, since you cant just walk around the halls and see a kid and talk to him.

teacher, own your own business, or work a low paying job...

that hits the nail on the head. I am the third one. Been coaching for 7 years, which was great in my 20's. Now I'm the poorest person I know because I sacrificed any kind of career commitment to coach. I'm an idiot. Setting a few dozen school records, a few state records, a few team state championships, a bunch of individual state champions, about 20 all americans etc...doesn't get you a nice house, a comfortable living, or a girlfriend/wife.

In short, find another way to get the coaching bug out of you...or wait until you are more settled in life economically before you coach, it'll still be there.

brokity broke wrote:

teacher, own your own business, or work a low paying job...

that hits the nail on the head. I am the third one. Been coaching for 7 years, which was great in my 20's. Now I'm the poorest person I know because I sacrificed any kind of career commitment to coach. I'm an idiot. Setting a few dozen school records, a few state records, a few team state championships, a bunch of individual state champions, about 20 all americans etc...doesn't get you a nice house, a comfortable living, or a girlfriend/wife.

In short, find another way to get the coaching bug out of you...or wait until you are more settled in life economically before you coach, it'll still be there.

Good try at a troll man. There are few coaches in America who have coached about 20 all americans in 7 years and Im sure none of them would be able to be as cynical as you about it. You also understand that a few dozen is at least 24 right?

Lawyer. Works great because I can control my own schedule (I'm not a litigator). I just pop out of the office for a couple hours in the afternoon and go back in the evening. It helps to have a great assistant who can run a practice on the rare ocassions I can't be there.

I posted earlier but in response to the certification question, I had to take an 8 hour course in first aid, and an 8 hour course in coaching principles that were both offered by our state high school league office. Then I had to take a 4 hour college course in diversity which I did on-line. The state department of education gives me some kind of provisional certificate that says I can be a head coach at a state secondary school. Easy as that.

Carol Stream, Illinois. Dick Pond Athletics. Founded in 1969, there were stores that existed before us, but none of them are still around.

bump

Yes. I'll bump this thread.

Guy and gals, should do a news search that Los Angeles

school district strike is news. Especially, look at the

graphic that uses the named "colored" to designate

students. That's not good.

Image title: LA Unified is dominated by students of color

Source: USA Today research

George Petras/USA TODAY

That so called researcher needs to be fired.

anon. wrote:

Yes. I'll bump this thread.

Guy and gals, should do a news search that Los Angeles

school district strike is news. Especially, look at the

graphic that uses the named "colored" to designate

students. That's not good.

Image title: LA Unified is dominated by students of color

Source: USA Today research

George Petras/USA TODAY

That so called researcher needs to be fired.

“Colored” does not equal “students of color”. Do you have many POCs on your Twitter/Facebook or as actual friends? Look it up, bro.

I was an engineer. I just came in at 630 or 7 during the season so I could leave at 330. Our practice started at 4.

If you're an assistant, not the head coach, you may be able to start with only a few days a week, or arriving as warmup ends. That can help make it work with your job. Most desk jobs are somewhat flexible hours, though.