What are everyone's predictions for if and/or when Rudisha makes a move to the 1500m?
What are everyone's predictions for if and/or when Rudisha makes a move to the 1500m?
People say he's built like an 800 meter runner though if Wheating can run 3:30 I don't see what would stop Rudisha. I don't see him breaking any records, but winning races with his speed. He'd be great for the event because nobody would want him on their shoulder the last 400.
As I said in another thread - he could run 3:31 RIGHT NOW.
With some more endurance training - 3:28 within 2 years.
He, Makh-Daddy, and Driouch will be the men to beat in Rio.
Full and accurate predictions up the the marathon. If you disagree you are a moron.
45.50->1:40.91 - 3:17.4 - 6:45 - 11:22 - 22:54 - 1:36
3:45 his first attempt. 3:32 eventually if it becomes his race.
Jeremy Wariner's recent annoucement that he's finally making the move to the 800m (about a year or two too late, as I've been saying here for months and months) means that Rudisha will find himself no longer the top dog in his current event in no time.
He's currently capable of about 3:29-3:30. Some longer strenth-speed-endurance, mile-specific work and the WR will be well within reach. Look for it to be broken end of the 2013 campaign. No one will touch Rudisha in the 1500m/mile by 2014.
3:40
I don't know what kind of kick he would have because he would be gassed after three laps.
I really don't see him as a 1500m runner and I don't think he will ever try the event seriously. I think he will have some problems breaking 3:40. With more concentrating maybe he can run 3:35, not faster - definitely never sub 3:30.
For me even 800m looks little bit too long for him - 700m could be his event!
Coach F wrote:
Jeremy Wariner's recent annoucement that he's finally making the move to the 800m (about a year or two too late, as I've been saying here for months and months).
When was this announcement made?
I'm a big Rudisha fan but I don't see him moving in and out of standard 1500 traffic well; kind of big. 1500 well beyond his top range; I can't see sub 3:35.
Koneko wrote:
As I said in another thread - he could run 3:31 RIGHT NOW.
You were wrong in that thread, too.
Coach F wrote:
Jeremy Wariner's recent annoucement that he's finally making the move to the 800m (about a year or two too late, as I've been saying here for months and months) means that Rudisha will find himself no longer the top dog in his current event in no time.
He's currently capable of about 3:29-3:30. Some longer strenth-speed-endurance, mile-specific work and the WR will be well within reach. Look for it to be broken end of the 2013 campaign. No one will touch Rudisha in the 1500m/mile by 2014.
I don't doubt that Wariner can be competitive or even successful at 800m, but I don't think he's certain to be the "top dog" and it is certainly unlikely he would beat Rudisha. Of course, lots of people have the tendency to think every runner's best event is the next distance up (e.g., Bolt would run 42; Wariner would break 1:40; Rudisha would break 3:30, etc.) as they have this false notion that you can predict the best 800m by who runs the fastest 400m and that the fastest 200m guy must be capable of the fastest 400m if he trained for it and it doesn't always work out this way.
Rudisha is tall, built for the 800, and runs it properly by going out fast and positive-splitting. At the end he is just hanging on. That is not the type of runner who does well at 1500.
If any 800 runner should switch to 1500 it's Nick Symmonds. Short guy, likes to even-split, likes tactical races and fast finishes. His product would sell better in the 1500 than the 800.
I can see him running 3:28-3:30 if he adapts well, but he won't get near 3:26.
I don't see Wariner accomplishing much in the 800m. Heck, top 800m guys could give him a run for his money in the 400m now.
Wariner is running 45s now training for the 400m. He will lose near a second over the 400 training for the 800 and will actually have less speed over the 400 than rudisha. Wariners 400m best is 43.45 so even at his peak training for the 800 he would be a 44 sec runner. Rudisha runs 44 low in world record shape.
Everyone underrates the 800m record.
blaznbison24 wrote:
I can see him running 3:28-3:30 if he adapts well, but he won't get near 3:26.
I don't see Wariner accomplishing much in the 800m. Heck, top 800m guys could give him a run for his money in the 400m now.
Is 3:28 not near 3:26?
Bad Wigins wrote:
Rudisha is tall, built for the 800, and runs it properly by going out fast and positive-splitting. At the end he is just hanging on. That is not the type of runner who does well at 1500.
If any 800 runner should switch to 1500 it's Nick Symmonds. Short guy, likes to even-split, likes tactical races and fast finishes. His product would sell better in the 1500 than the 800.
Good points. Although I would not bet against Rudisha in the 1500 or Bolt in the 400. Both of them are on another level.
I doubt a peak Rudisha could break 3:36 right now off his 800 training, as he is a specialised 800 m runner.
Give him a winter to train for 1500 and maybe he could run 3:33, but his 800 times would suffer.
Wariner will never be an elite 800 meter runner. No endurance - he'd struggle to break 1:50 right now.
Most people in this thread are underestimating Rudisha's 1500 ability. Wait until he decides to move up - it will be frightening. He'll end up as one of the top 10 1500 performers of all time.
Coach F wrote:
Jeremy Wariner's recent annoucement that he's finally making the move to the 800m (about a year or two too late, as I've been saying here for months and months) means that Rudisha will find himself no longer the top dog in his current event in no time.
He's currently capable of about 3:29-3:30. Some longer strenth-speed-endurance, mile-specific work and the WR will be well within reach. Look for it to be broken end of the 2013 campaign. No one will touch Rudisha in the 1500m/mile by 2014.
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