It's obvious to me that those Turkish girls are cheaters.
They came of nowhere to beat everyone. At that level, it's ridiculous.
Wow. If I had to pick one Turkish female to be clean it would've been her.
Right, because if one Turk cheats it follows that they all do?
Does this logic extend to Americans?
Didn't see much of those two Turkish 1500 ladies after the Olympics, did we?
Not all. Just three.
pr100 wrote:
Right, because if one Turk cheats it follows that they all do?
Does this logic extend to Americans?
It would if virtually every top level American track athlete were getting busted, as is the case with Turkey.
Turkey is an expendable country, the US isn't. USADA has been spending too much time chasing Lance and not enough time in Oregon (where the real cheaters are - except Phil's pockets are too deep, so the distance guys are protected). Remember that many (M.Jones, etc.) "proven" cheaters didn't test positive either, so that means all are equally suspicious until they can prove their innocence (isn't that how it now works here on LR?).
I'd be interested in seeing any actual evidence that any distance runners in Oregon are cheating. You know, actual evidence.
After doing a little research I agree. These two Turkish girls were doped.
Bulut Gamze had a progression of 1500s of 2011: 4:18, then 2012: 4:01 There was little before that that I can see. She was born in 1992 and was a 10 minute plus steeplechaser until 2012 when it magically dropped to 9:30.
Sorry, but I've been in this sport for a long time and this is not the progression to becoming an Olympic Champ,
Cakir Alptekin, the gold medalist, had served a two-year doping ban when she tested positive at the World Junior Championships in 2004 as a teenage steeplechaser. Later, she competed at the 2008 Olympics and 2009 World Championships over barriers but didn't even break 10 minutes without chemical help. All of a sudden she is a 3:56 1500m runner this year ....Surprise ....Surprise
It kills the sport because many women will give up rather than put the years of work in.
SLO Fan wrote:
Sorry, but I've been in this sport for a long time and this is not the progression to becoming an Olympic Champ,
This happens when your country is not an T&F powerhouse but is looking for a WC's or OG's hosting.
Remember Kenteris, Thanou, Halkia and other Greeks between 1999-2004.
Turkey, why do you lie? The good Doc will psychoanlyze it.