I just heard that Nathan Christenson (sp) is no longer running for Texas, which means he is the last of the Boerne Champion NXN winners to stop running college.
My question is, What is the status of the other Champions?
Are any of them doing well in College?
NXN wrote:
I just heard that Nathan Christenson (sp) is no longer running for Texas, which means he is the last of the Boerne Champion NXN winners to stop running college.
My question is, What is the status of the other Champions?
Are any of them doing well in College?
I heard Chris Derrick was decent these days...
Reed Connor doing well at Wisconsin.
joe M wrote:
Reed Connor doing well at Wisconsin.
Wait, are you implying that some from The Woodlands HS wasn't "burnt out" like everyone that comes out of that program?!? How could that be? Just kidding. But for real, what ever happened to the first ever NXN champ (first called NTN) Macnamara from York HS? I forget his first name. He walked away from Brandon Betheke in that race and then I never heard of that guy again. I think he went to Michigan to run?
watchout wrote:
I heard Chris Derrick was decent these days...
Also from that team, Riddle at Illinois and Beattie at Washington have had pretty good college careers. Both 14:0x types I think.
Pawola, too (he's gone 14:19.09)
Seems like most of the runners from Neuqua Valley (2007) and North Central (2008) boys and have improved by ~4-5% from those races to this point... of course, some of those were juniors or sophomores and some didn't run their best races (though most did - that's why they won), but still... it's not like they've gotten worse or only marginally improved since that point in time.
watchout wrote:
Pawola, too (he's gone 14:19.09)
Seems like most of the runners from Neuqua Valley (2007) and North Central (2008) boys and have improved by ~4-5% from those races to this point... of course, some of those were juniors or sophomores and some didn't run their best races (though most did - that's why they won), but still... it's not like they've gotten worse or only marginally improved since that point in time.
Is Danny Pawola still running? I noticed he isn't on Penn State's roster anymore.
knife wrote:
Is Danny Pawola still running? I noticed he isn't on Penn State's roster anymore.
Pawola quit running prior to LAST xc season; apparently just psychologically interested in pursuing other things after a long running career. So he undoubtedly would've been faster even than 14:19 w/ two more years of running.
Riddle too was super talented but spent much of high school AND college injured. Was 12th in the 10k at regionals last year and made nationals in XC. So his times probably don't quite reflect his ability level, unfortunately.
Great team, they've done well with what they've wanted to do.
(Derrick especially.)
Kenny Klotz has a good college xc career. Never really did anything on the track but he ran some big races for Oregon during the fall.
The OP was talking about members on NTN/NXN winning TEAMS, not the individuals (with, I assumed, the purpose of asking "All the Boerne guys are done already... did they just run too hard/peak too early? Did other teams do the same?")
watchout wrote:
The OP was talking about members on NTN/NXN winning TEAMS, not the individuals (with, I assumed, the purpose of asking "All the Boerne guys are done already... did they just run too hard/peak too early? Did other teams do the same?")
Pretty pointless thread.
With rare exceptions, most great h.s. teams are filled with a bunch of 4:20-4:25 milers, with a stud who can run 4:15 or under.
Most of those guys aren't going to do much in college, and most will find that once they leave the system where they were top dogs, they don't have much motivation to continue running.
ever heard of Katie Flood?
Craig Lutz is 4th or 5th in line at McDonald's and ready to mcoudble em up
Hank Moody wrote:
Kenny Klotz has a good college xc career. Never really did anything on the track but he ran some big races for Oregon during the fall.
On the track his allergies in Eugene, screwed him up big time.
Yuri Saccharin wrote:
watchout wrote:The OP was talking about members on NTN/NXN winning TEAMS, not the individuals (with, I assumed, the purpose of asking "All the Boerne guys are done already... did they just run too hard/peak too early? Did other teams do the same?")
Pretty pointless thread.
With rare exceptions, most great h.s. teams are filled with a bunch of 4:20-4:25 milers, with a stud who can run 4:15 or under.
Most of those guys aren't going to do much in college, and most will find that once they leave the system where they were top dogs, they don't have much motivation to continue running.
Disagree- I think its interesting to see what guys who aren't elite but had a real taste of success in high school go on to do. Just because most of them don't turn out to be world beaters at the collegiate level doesn't mean its not an interesting question.
Hey Watchout,
you do a great job following the HS teams. Do you know if there are any NXN Boys Champion team members doing well in College?
Or maybe, Which Champion team members have done the best in College?
NXN wrote:
I just heard that Nathan Christenson (sp) is no longer running for Texas, which means he is the last of the Boerne Champion NXN winners to stop running college.
My question is, What is the status of the other Champions?
Are any of them doing well in College?
I can't tell if you are implying that all of the Boerne Champion runners have quit, or not, but alot of them are still running for their respective colleges.
The Dawson twins from Coatesville had a good careers at Penn State.
ASU GUY wrote:
Hank Moody wrote:Kenny Klotz has a good college xc career. Never really did anything on the track but he ran some big races for Oregon during the fall.
On the track his allergies in Eugene, screwed him up big time.
You mean even day to day training? Because obviously there were travel options for racing. Interesting though, hadn't ever heard that about Klotz.
What's the deal with the Central guys and allergies/asthma
Rupp, Klotz, and Oliver.
or knowing they have allergies yet choosing to run in eugene when they presumably had other options.