did you see that fatty at :58? working hard.
did you see that fatty at :58? working hard.
No he runs 105-110 with some supplemental training. Actually running 145 is much much harder and puts a lot more stress on the legs.
So he doesn't do any Alter G training?
this makes me glad im not a professional runner...
Yeah guys, honestly, bashing Rupp is some bullsh!t! He's training incredibly hard. Maybe harder than anyone else in the world.
All professional runners are training hard, you don't get to that level on natural talent. They bash Rupp because he is Rupp.
Pre is my favorite wrote:
Yeah guys, honestly, bashing Rupp is some bullsh!t! He's training incredibly hard. Maybe harder than anyone else in the world.
No way is he training harder than anyone else in the world. That's an ignorant statement. Go to Kenya and then make that statement after seeing them training for World Cross. He has every possible advantage. Not even close to how hard Cam Levins trained this year as a full time student.
Are you serious? Of course Galen is training harder than me right now, all he does is train!
O.o wrote:
All professional runners are training hard, you don't get to that level on natural talent. They bash Rupp because he is Rupp.
Pre is my favorite wrote:Yeah guys, honestly, bashing Rupp is some bullsh!t! He's training incredibly hard. Maybe harder than anyone else in the world.
It's best to not take it as a given that pro runners are all going to train hard. Look at what happened to American pro running in the 90s. Bob Kennedy said it was a huge eye opener the first time he went and trained with Kenyans.
khgfc wrote:
It's best to not take it as a given that pro runners are all going to train hard. Look at what happened to American pro running in the 90s. Bob Kennedy said it was a huge eye opener the first time he went and trained with Kenyans.
Where did this notion come from of Americans not training hard in the 90s? Bob Kennedy was low mileage even relative to Americans. Who else was doing low mileage in the 90s?
hell no. saying that rupp works harder than everyone else in the world is a slap to the face to those who work hard
Rupp works very hard, but not quite as hard as he can. Salazar learned some lessons from his own career, and prioritizes longevity of career over short-term results. That's why Rupp cross-trains part-time, and why he's been consistently healthy throughout his career.
jdjdj wrote:
khgfc wrote:It's best to not take it as a given that pro runners are all going to train hard. Look at what happened to American pro running in the 90s. Bob Kennedy said it was a huge eye opener the first time he went and trained with Kenyans.
Where did this notion come from of Americans not training hard in the 90s? Bob Kennedy was low mileage even relative to Americans. Who else was doing low mileage in the 90s?
Mileage is not synonymous with difficulty. If someone is on low mileage but they're training HARD then that's fine. My contention is that Americans weren't training hard in the 90s, not that they weren't training a lot. For evidence just look at race results.
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jdjdj wrote:
khgfc wrote:It's best to not take it as a given that pro runners are all going to train hard. Look at what happened to American pro running in the 90s. Bob Kennedy said it was a huge eye opener the first time he went and trained with Kenyans.
Where did this notion come from of Americans not training hard in the 90s? Bob Kennedy was low mileage even relative to Americans. Who else was doing low mileage in the 90s?
"From my senior year of college, which was in 1992, and for the next couple years, I was kind of an 85- to 95-mile-a-week person," Kennedy says. "And I went down there and I started running 110, 115 miles a week, and that summer is when I broke all those records."
http://runningtimes.com/Print.aspx?articleID=18284When I was in Australia in January and February I was up to a maximum of 141miles in a week. It was basically a gradual 105, 115, 135, 140, 135 miles per week. The bulk was in the 125 to 130 range. About 6 weeks of that. I raced at the end of February down there and ran 13:15 for 5000m, off of that training and a week of 90 miles.
http://www.duathlon.com/articles/215khgfc wrote:
My contention is that Americans weren't training hard in the 90s, not that they weren't training a lot. For evidence just look at race results.
That is your evidence? Because there were no fast times so they must not have been training hard? Does that really make sense to you? What were they doing, just jogging around with their mothers?
iyugiuh wrote:
khgfc wrote:My contention is that Americans weren't training hard in the 90s, not that they weren't training a lot. For evidence just look at race results.
That is your evidence? Because there were no fast times so they must not have been training hard? Does that really make sense to you? What were they doing, just jogging around with their mothers?
Todd Williams wasn't working hard, running fast?
http://www.letsrun.com/2003/toddwilliamsii.phpI should clarify what I mean by training hard. It's not just about the length or intensity of your day to day running. It's not about looking at a schedule and saying "wow that's really hard training". It's about looking at it and honestly assessing whether or not it's the best training you can possibly be doing to be the best runner you can possibly be, which also involves looking at the training of other better runners and asking yourself how you can be more like them. Many, many American elites in the 90s were doing just that but, on the whole, there were not enough.
Top performances show the quality of the underlying talent pool. The fastest times ARE evidence of trends in training and it works like this: The larger number of people who you have doing appropriate training, the greater the likelihood that the most talented runners will be doing appropriate training. Throw hundreds of Kenyans into 140 mile weeks with 3 hard workouts a week and your world-class talent who responds well to high mileage is much more likely to go into that sort of training. In the 90s, there were too few people in the talent pool doing appropriate training. A Galen Rupp talent at 26 years old in 1996 was much more likely to be doing 80 mpw and collecting money at road races. The great performances we saw in the 90s were the exception, not examples of a superior training trend.
Also, in the 90s with the exception of Kennedy and Croghan and maybe one or two others, Americans were content to be the top American and not challenge the best in the world -- the attempt just wasn't made.
Les wrote:
Also, in the 90s with the exception of Kennedy and Croghan and maybe one or two others, Americans were content to be the top American and not challenge the best in the world -- the attempt just wasn't made.
Nobody was content. In that era everyone was told the kenyanys were genetically superior and anyone who didn't accept that as a rule was ridiculed. Many tried anyway and did not see success. The poor training methods were never going to get us there. When the elites failed it became hard to justify committing to ten years of hard work to get there. And you had to be a self coached rebel since no coach was going to give you the necessary volume. Nobody had a chance. Kennedy was the only ray of light back then, then the world records were all demolished and we got set back another decade. Now is the golden age we were all waiting for and I am sure rupp will not be the only one to mix it up at the very top.