it's the oldest american record on the books, men's or women's, dating to 1974.
symmonds has now run 1:42.95/3:36.04, both this year.
wohlhuter ran 1:43.9/3:53.3y in his career.
based on his london performance it's safe to say symmonds peaked at the right time. i know 1000m races are usually set up for record attempts, any chance this could happen at any of the post-olympic meets? maybe a small meet in belgium?
Possibly .....
There will be a 1000M , I think Willis is scheduled
You have to go by pretty fast which is not Symmonds style but he could should get that mark
He might be suffering from a post-Olympic let down ....
Will Andrew Wheating ever run under 331 again for 1500 meters?
he should go for it. According to Vento^(3/2) he can go 2:12.79
2:13.5 would be 26.7/200m. Ideally he would come through 400m in 52.5 and 800m in 1:46.0 and hold on with a 27.5 last 200m. Could be done.
running is better wrote:
it's the oldest american record on the books, men's or women's, dating to 1974.
symmonds has now run 1:42.95/3:36.04, both this year.
wohlhuter ran 1:43.9/3:53.3y in his career.
based on his london performance it's safe to say symmonds peaked at the right time. i know 1000m races are usually set up for record attempts, any chance this could happen at any of the post-olympic meets? maybe a small meet in belgium?
He said on Twitter he ended his season today with 1:47 win in France
I doubt he could do it. This record is not weak. To compare look at Kaki: 1:42.2 and 2:13.6.
JackPacages wrote:
He said on Twitter he ended his season today with 1:47 win in France
Really? for a guy that rails on the lack of sponsorship opportunities it makes no sense to head home with a good number of paying euro meets available. Unless he's hurt or totally burned out he should be racing.
Not a chance Symmonds can do this. People don't get how good this time time was.
Maybe Symmonds does, though. In spite of whining about a lack of income-generating opportunities as a consistent WC/Oly finalist and competitor in DL meets, he is shutting down his season with meets still on the calendar. Guess that racing, what, four hard 800s (?) from June to August really took it out of him.
4 hard 800s plus one Paris Hilton = a full season
The AR is 2:13.9 for those like me who didn't know.
Without Rudisha Symmonds wont run a 1000 under 2:15
How about going for the AR in the 800m? He's only half a second off of it...wouldn't that make more sense?
What was Wohlhuter's 400/440 PR?
At the time it was a world record
2:13.9 Rick Wohlhuter (UCTC) Oslo, Norway 7/30/74
It's still #3 on the all-time list according to
http://voices.yahoo.com/the-1000-meters-review-world-record-holders-6265208.html
After his performance at the Olympics and his recent 1:47 win, I don't think a "small meet" would provide the excitement or pressure to produce this kind of result.
not possible, he had an acceptable season.
2:11.96 Noah Ngeny KEN 02/11/1978 1 Rieti 05/09/1999
2:12.18 Sebastian Coe GBR 29/09/1956 1 Oslo 11/07/1981
2:12.66 Noah Ngeny 1 Nice 17/07/1999
2:12.88 Steve Cram GBR 14/10/1960 1 Gateshead 09/08/1985
2:13.40 Sebastian Coe 1 Oslo 01/07/1980
2:13.56 Kennedy Kimwetich KEN 01/01/1973 2 Nice 17/07/1999
2:13.62 Abubaker Kaki SUD 21/06/1989 1 Eugene, OR 03/07/2010
2:13.73 Noureddine Morceli ALG 28/02/1970 1 Villeneuve-d'Ascq 02/07/1993
2:13.9 Rick Wohlhuter USA 23/12/1948 1 Oslo 30/07/1974
2:13.93 Abubaker Kaki 1 Stockholm 22/07/2008
2:13.96 Mehdi Baala FRA 17/08/1978 1 Strasbourg 26/06/2003
2:14.09 Joaquim Cruz BRA 12/03/1963 1 Nice 20/08/1984
2:14.28 Japheth Kimutai KEN 20/12/1978 1 Stockholm 01/08/2000
2:14.41 William Yiampoy KEN 17/05/1974 2 Rieti 05/09/1999
2:14.43 Laban Rotich KEN 20/01/1969 1 Nice 16/07/1997
2:14.50 Abdi Bile SOM 28/12/1962 1 Jerez de la Frontera 13/09/1989
2:14.51 Abdi Bile 1 London 14/07/1989
2:14.52 Djabir Saïd-Guerni ALG 29/03/1977 3 Rieti 05/09/1999
2:14.53 Willi Wülbeck FRG 18/12/1954 2 Oslo 01/07/1980
2:14.54 Joaquim Cruz 1 Eugene, OR 21/07/1984
2:14.64 Laban Rotich 3 Nice 17/07/1999
2:14.69 Mahjoub Haïda MAR 01/07/1970 1 Nice 12/07/1995
2:14.72 Yusuf Saad Kamel BRN 29/03/1983 2 Stockholm 22/07/2008
2:14.73 Joseph Tengelei KEN 08/12/1972 2 Nice 12/07/1995
2:14.73 Patrick Konchellah KEN 20/04/1968 2 Stockholm 01/08/2000
2:14.78 Noah Ngeny 1 Nice 08/07/2000
2:14.79 William Yiampoy 3 Stockholm 01/08/2000
2:14.83 Boaz Kiplagat Lalang KEN 08/02/1989 2 Eugene, OR 03/07/2010
2:14.90 Sebastian Coe 1 London 16/07/1986
2:14.95 Sammy Koskei KEN 14/05/1961 1 Bruxelles 30/08/1985
2:14.96 Benson Koech KEN 10/11/1974 2 Nice 16/07/1997
2:14.99 William Chirchir KEN 06/02/1979 4 Nice 17/07/1999
2:14.99 Mehdi Baala 1 Villeneuve-d'Ascq 09/06/2006
2:15.00 Benjamin Kipkurui KEN 28/12/1980 5 Nice 17/07/1999
2:15.05 Marko Koers NED 03/11/1972 3 Nice 16/07/1997
2:15.09 Elkanah Onkware Angwenyi KEN 05/02/1983 2 Villeneuve-d'Ascq 09/06/2006
2:15.16 Saïd Aouita MAR 02/11/1959 1 London 28/08/1988
2:15.23 Rob Druppers NED 29/04/1962 1 Utrecht 17/08/1985
2:15.23 Belal Mansoor Ali BRN 17/10/1988 1 Stockholm 07/08/2007
2:15.25 Andreas Busse GER 06/05/1959 1 Berlin 31/07/1983
2:15.26 Driss Maazouzi FRA 15/10/1969 6 Nice 17/07/1999
2:15.3 Mike Boit KEN 06/01/1949 1r1 Wattenscheid 23/09/1977
2:15.31 Amine Laalou MAR 13/05/1982 1 Rabat 05/06/2011
2:15.48 Arthémon Hatungimana BDI 21/01/1974 3 Nice 12/07/1995
2:15.50 Yuriy Borzakovskiy RUS 12/04/1981 3 Stockholm 22/07/2008
2:15.5 Ivo van Damme BEL 21/02/1954 1 Namur, BEL 14/07/1976
2:15.51 Nadir Bosch FRA 16/05/1973 7 Nice 17/07/1999
2:15.57 James McIlroy IRL 30/12/1976 4 Rieti 05/09/1999
2:15.63 Vénuste Niyongabo BDI 09/12/1973 1 Salamanca 18/07/1995
2:15.63 André Bucher SUI 19/10/1976 1 Langenthal 24/05/2001
2:15.76 Andrea Benvenuti ITA 13/12/1969 1 Nuoro 12/09/1992
2:15.76 Marcin Lewandowski POL 13/06/1987 2 Rabat 05/06/2011
2:15.81 Agberto Guimarães BRA 18/08/1957 2 Bern 29/07/1983
2:15.83 William Tanui KEN 22/02/1964 1 Auckland 20/01/1990
2:15.83 Andrea Longo ITA 26/06/1975 4 Nice 16/07/1997
2:15.84 Mohammad Al-Azemi KUW 16/06/1982 3 Rabat 05/06/2011
2:15.86 Mbulaeni Mulaudzi RSA 08/09/1980 2 Stockholm 07/08/2007
2:15.87 Giuseppe D'Urso ITA 15/09/1969 8 Nice 17/07/1999
2:15.89 Juma Ndiwa KEN 28/11/1960 3 Bruxelles 30/08/1985
2:15.89 Vincent Malakwen KEN 19/07/1974 1 Sarajevo 09/09/1996
2:15.91 Steve Ovett GBR 09/10/1955 1 Koblenz 06/09/1979
2:15.97 David Krummenacker USA 24/05/1975 1 Portland, OR 18/05/2002
2:15.97 Geoffrey Kipkoech Rono KEN 21/04/1987 4 Stockholm 22/07/2008
2:16.0 Danie Malan RSA 26/06/1949 1 München 24/06/1973
2:16.0 Vladimir Malozemlin URS 26/01/1956 1 Kyiv 11/06/1981
2:16.1 Tom Byers USA 12/05/1955 1 København 06/08/1981
2:16.13 Fermín Cacho ESP 16/02/1969 1 Andújar 06/09/1993
2:16.13 Tarek Boukensa ALG 19/11/1981 3 Villeneuve-d'Ascq 09/06/2006
2:16.18 Bernard Lagat USA 12/12/1974 1 Gateshead 31/08/2008
2:16.19 Timothy Too Kiptanui KEN 05/01/1980 1 Réthimno 06/07/2003
2:16.2 Jürgen May GDR 18/06/1942 1 Erfurt 20/07/1965
2:16.2 Franz-Josef Kemper FRG 30/09/1945 1 Hannover 21/09/1966
... which reminds me....
Mel Watman's report in Aug 17 1985 issue of Athletics Weekly described Cram's time as "intrinsically the greater performance" compared to Coe's WR due to the "cold, windy weather".
The wind speed was 3m/sec into runners' faces in the home straight earlier in the evening and Cram asked the race to be put back from 8.35pm to 9.50pm. However, whereas the wind died at 8.35pm, it picked up again at 9.50pm and was much colder by then too.
"Yes, it was ironic," said Cram. "It backfired really."
As for splits: Coe ran 25.6, 51.3, 78.4, 1:44.6 and 2:12.18 James King and Rob Harrison took him to around 550m.
Cram ran 25.7 (James Mays 25.16), 51.8 (51.55 for Mays), 78.84, 1:44.94 (Cram needed 53.33 for the final 400m and clocked 26.10 with the wind behind him down the back straight. He then needed 27.23 for the final 200m, but fell short with 2:12.85).
Rob Harrison had been in second up until 600m, but Cram overtook him at 600m and Harrison dropped out without ever having taken the lead.
Cram's 200 splits were 25.7, 26.1, 27.04, 26.10, 27.91. Coe's were 25.6, 25.7, 27.1, 26.2, 27.6 - in perfect conditions in Oslo.