Is anyone else losing respect for Leo Manzano running around with the Mexican flag??

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Thank You Sir

7 years ago 08/08/2012 2:23pm CDT
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themanontherun wrote:

Rush O'Hannity wrote:

I'm not very patriotic, so I don't care much. I do think it's rather hypocritical of anyone on LR to mention it though. After all, the lot of you have been kissing Lagat's butt for years and he's a freaking Kenyan.

When Lagat won double gold in '07, he didn't whip out a Kenyan flag or talk about Kenya in interviews. All he could talk about was how happy he was to compete for the US and bring medals home to the nation he loves. And when he was competing for Kenya, even though the US supported him, he didn't whip out a US flag when he won medals or talk about the US in interviews; he supported the country he was representing, and that country only. I'm sure he's proud of his Kenyan heritage; he should be.

But he doesn't place his heritage above his CHOSEN home.

Excellent way to put it. That's all most of us are trying to say.
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7 years ago 08/08/2012 2:28pm CDT
re: soy mexicano babosos

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soy mexicano babosos wrote:

I actually had resented Leonel Manzano a little because I had never seen him embrace his Mexican side. He was in fact born in Mexico, but always thought of him as a sell out or a Mexican trying to be white. Now with this gesture, I actually respect him for embracing who he is and where he comes from. It's shameful that most people in the US know very little about where they come from and just chose to label themselves as "Americans".

You all have a history and roots much deeper than you think. Don't bash Manzano for choosing to celebrate his roots, and be proud of who he is and where he comes from.

Look into your past, embrace your roots, and always be proud of who you are and where you come from.

You don't choose your roots, you don't earn your roots. Why should be celebrate or even acknowledge them? Do we have more of a connection with people in the past we've never met than we do with people in the present with whom we interact?
MmmmKchildren

7 years ago 08/08/2012 2:45pm CDT
re: themanontherun

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If it weren't for his roots he probably wouldn't have had the same upbringing and therefore possibly wouldn't have been where he is today.

Also, this isn't a liberal comment, it's utterly subjective and if you can't accept it, I really pity you: The reason we have so many Latino immigrants is due to the fact that they're fleeing from the horrible living conditions caused by the American demand for drugs and our corporate globalization.

I love the USA, but some of the people inside of it utterly disgust me.
themanontherun wrote:

soy mexicano babosos wrote:

I actually had resented Leonel Manzano a little because I had never seen him embrace his Mexican side. He was in fact born in Mexico, but always thought of him as a sell out or a Mexican trying to be white. Now with this gesture, I actually respect him for embracing who he is and where he comes from. It's shameful that most people in the US know very little about where they come from and just chose to label themselves as "Americans".

You all have a history and roots much deeper than you think. Don't bash Manzano for choosing to celebrate his roots, and be proud of who he is and where he comes from.

Look into your past, embrace your roots, and always be proud of who you are and where you come from.

You don't choose your roots, you don't earn your roots. Why should be celebrate or even acknowledge them? Do we have more of a connection with people in the past we've never met than we do with people in the present with whom we interact?
Kiss me I'm Irish

7 years ago 08/08/2012 2:52pm CDT
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MmmmKchildren wrote:
The reason we have so many Latino immigrants is due to the fact that they're fleeing from the horrible living conditions caused by the American demand for drugs and our corporate globalization.

Were Mexican living conditions better before the drug trade? The fact is that things have been rough in Mexico since the Aztecs and before.

Anyhow, that's beside the point. The criticism of Leo is just stupid. He can honor his Mexican heritage and still be a good American citizen and member of Team USA. They are not mutually exclusive.
Bob123

7 years ago 08/08/2012 8:01pm CDT
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I am raging liberal. I hate fox news. I won't go to Arizona until they change their racist law, I think there should be a path to citizenship, and to not pass th dream act is criminal.

Having said that, this really pisses me off. Poor, poor form.

He was there representing his country, the day before he can be Mexican and American the day after he can be Mexican and American , but the day he runs for his chosen country he holds up their flag and their flag alone.

Just because I am liberal doesn't mean I don't love my country and feel pride when I see and American win a medal. Frankly, I feel even more pride when I see a Lagat or Meb win a medal and I will scream my head off for lemong , because I think it is our diversity and our willingness to accept the huddled masses that makes us great. And by wining medals for the US they prove the glory of that ideal.

It is this that makes me hate republicans because they want to rid of us of our huddled masses and want keep the huddled masses we do have down. We are quickly ceasing to be the country where a coal miners son can be anything but a coal miner (or on out of work coal miner) .

On the other hand if this country has nurtured you and supported you and sent you to the Olympics, then you respect that and you cherish that while your a representing that country.

After you go home you can do what ever you want.
martin de porres

7 years ago 08/08/2012 8:29pm CDT
re: jose montana, notre dame alum

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jose montana, notre dame alum wrote:

we latinos will not forsake our people nor allow others to define us. mexicans are in solidarity with cubans, guatemalans, costa ricans, brazilians, etc. we are proud of our culture. leonel es la raza.

For more on mexican solidarity with guatemalans, see http://www.cipamericas.org/archives/5339 .

jjjjjj

7 years ago 08/08/2012 8:31pm CDT
re: Asker of questions

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How about enjoying the moment? We've been waiting for medalists in the men's track distances at the olympics for 20 years and we finally get two and all you people can do is whine and complain and point to doping and criticize the greatest distance running nation (Kenya).
el toro

7 years ago 08/08/2012 8:35pm CDT
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Respect wrote:

It's very disrespectful.
_________

Why?
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Iwo Jima, Omaha Beach... You are basically saying [email protected] you to the country that gave you the opportunity.

An opportunity created in part with Hispanic blood.

http://www.somosprimos.com/tony/tonymarines/hispanicmarines.htm
Mexican

7 years ago 08/08/2012 9:53pm CDT
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Sure things were rough for some in Mexico during the Aztecs, but not any worse than they were in Europe! Europe where folks dumped their sheeet on the streets. Regardless, Mexico is very much like the U.S., where the "whites dominated subjugated and discriminated against the "redskins". You guys can say wutever u want. But the fact is that most Mexican-Americans r natives! We were raped and pillaged by the Euro's. We were beaten, enslaved for hundreds of years before the Africans and when our numbers were depleted, well then u sought new "labor". So what if it's a sheeet hole it was ours. U can continue to biatch and complain. It won't make any difference. What goes around comes around- you reap what u sow MF's.

Save your friggen comebacks. I don't give a damn wut u think. My educated opinion is just as good as and other fugger.
Mexican

7 years ago 08/08/2012 10:09pm CDT
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One of the problems with many here and other places is that u get "educated at some biased "university", without TRULY understanding the struggle. Never walked in our shoes. This is not a problem with Mexico or any other country for that matter. The fact is that any human that went through the exact same circumstance over an extended period of time would responed in the exact same manner. You people that have so much time to educate yourselves, well what can I say? I feel sorry for u. Many of u claim to be Christian and quote some fugged up passage that u think justifies ur stance. How sad. If Christian is that what Jesus would do? Call or treat Mexicans as inferior? Some poster earlier on this thread seems to think of Mexican as unproductive. Every culture has it's ups and downs. Whites aren't all that. What did you guys do for tens of thousands of years? Not a damn thing. That is not a cut down that just the way it was. Fact is that all of us have the same dreams, aspirations as well as character flaws. What a damn boring place this would b if everyone on the planet was exactly like any one of us.
Yo soy flaco

7 years ago 08/08/2012 10:19pm CDT
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Damn. This sounds like some Iniguez or IAAP crap out of San Antonio.
lilcat13

7 years ago 08/08/2012 11:05pm CDT
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I am also insulted with him carrying two flags. I wouldn't expect someone to wave the US flag if they had moved to Mexico at age four and then won a medal for Mexico. I like Leo and its great that he won a medal and wish him all the best. He still should have only waved the US flag.

DontHateParticipate

7 years ago 08/09/2012 12:45am CDT
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Haters Gonna Hate. You haters are just mad because a brown man, I mean a Mexican, got a silver medal in the 1500m.
Neutral Observer.

7 years ago 08/09/2012 4:37am CDT
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All these comments prove to the rest of us that the USA is a deeply divided nation and cannot survive as an identifiable entity and will break-up within 50 years or so - probably just before the indigenous white Americans realise they are about to become a minority in their own country.
3rd Generation American

7 years ago 08/10/2012 12:06am CDT
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LOL forgetting your roots? You don't have to wear two flags to "remember your roots". You wouldn't see Kenyans who moved to America that would wave their Kenyan flag if they metaled yet they've given up so much more. He got his education in the USA. You can claim it's his roots, but I guarentee you generations down the line he'll teach his kids the same B.S. like every other Mexican family I see. Sorry, but everyone in the USA is from another country besides Native Americans. White people don't call themselves British or anything, the only people that consider themselves anything, but American are old fashioned. Honestly, Mexicans are the only race where I've expected as much.

P.S. I'm a minority
*We are done.

7 years ago 08/10/2012 2:36am CDT
re: wat belachelijk

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wat belachelijk wrote:

I think it's good. He was raised in Mexico, his family is from Mexico, and Mexico has nothing else to cheer for on the track right now.

If anything carrying both flags makes the US look better and less xenophobic.

OH MY GOD...WE ARE SO DONE IN THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY!
Times Change for the Better

7 years ago 08/10/2012 2:46am CDT
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I'm glad Leonel Manzano waved the flag of Mexico. I'm sure Alberto Salazar would have loved to wave the flag of Mexico when he won but couldn't due to Anglo-White racism against their own White-Hispanic people.
NOPE!

7 years ago 08/10/2012 3:11am CDT
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Times Change for the Better wrote:

I'm glad Leonel Manzano waved the flag of Mexico. I'm sure Alberto Salazar would have loved to wave the flag of Mexico when he won but couldn't due to Anglo-White racism against their own White-Hispanic people.

Times change for the worse! No DOUBT.
lucky luchiano

7 years ago 08/10/2012 7:04am CDT
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pretty sure he is from cuba not mexico.

great job
I Approve

7 years ago 08/10/2012 7:11am CDT
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Mexicans have their pride and show it around here. I would too if I were Leonel, German, Alberto, Joaquim, Mario, the Frito Bandito, or Speedy Gonzales.