The Official Men's 1500m Thread

asdfasdfasdfasdf wrote:

Good lord a whole two second personal best! You know Manzano went from 3:36 to 3:33 in one year. Webb went from like 1:47 to 1:43 in a year.

You aren't too bright, are you? Maybe with bush league times that kind of jump is acceptable, but at this level, you don't drop that much time without some sort if illegal aid.

Link to the race, if interested.

http://db.tt/AYZqqTB2

Will they immediately test this Algerian guy now that he won gold? I hope so.

I don't think it's out of place to question the performance given the context of a.) the manner of the sustained kick (from so far out), dominating opponents to a degree he has never shown before, b.) the history of runners at that distance and from that geographical area c.) he looks and competes like a knuckle-dragging ass, and d.) a mixture of all of the above in the shadow of what we saw with Ramzi

His actual drop in time is believable. What's not believable, like somebody already said, is that he could probably pop a 3:28 right now. He just didn't have to do so. The guy is ridiculous.

I am just elated to see Leo Manzano win the 1500m silver medal. To the Let’s Run board, this guy has worked his butt off for the last 10 years to no end. I have watched him do every type of workout that makes a great runner: bounding drills only a gymnast perform , intensive abs workouts immediately after a hard tempo runs) repeated over and over during the last several years. Leo never gave up hope. After finishing last in some major meets, many of us would see Leo bounce back doing a hard tempo run two days later in the Texas heat. It was a sign of character and Leo’s persistence. It pained me to read the crap on Let’s Run forum. Now all the forum doubters can stuff it and hopefully try to be more constructive of what it really takes to become the best in the world. Leo Manzano epitomizes what it takes to be a great Olympic track athlete. Leo is a great ambassador to the American middle distance running program. I just hope the Let’s Run forum doubters will start backing Leo. Tonight’s performance was not luck, it was a direct result of years of hard work and incredible dedication.

The entire U.S. running community should be very encouraged for the years to come. Matt Centrowitz ran a fantastic race. Matt’s still young and will continue to get better. He just needs to stay healthy, patient and continue to get stronger.

I hope for the sake of our sport, everyone was clean in tonight’s race. It has been 44 years (Jim Ryan 1968 Mexico) since an American medaled in the 1500m Olympics. Give Leo your support and well deserved congratulations!!!!

Centro: PB 2008 3:44 PB 2009 3:36. Wheating: PB 2008 3:38 PB 2010 3:30. Quit the double standards

Crushed wrote:

..I had never even heard of him until the heats for the 1500m...

Just because you've never heard of Taoufik Makhloufi doesn't mean that there is anything fishy. For the knowledgeable he is a known quanity and has run 3:30.80 and has been the WC and won the African Championships at both 1500 and 800. Better credentials than Centowitz or Manzano.

Congrats to Leo - what an incredible run. It's not hard to pick out the cheaters though, and Makhloufi definitely has the "sketchy as hell" vibe. I'm happy for Mazano, but I'm completely bummed out that an obvious cheater has been let through the gate and awarded the gold. Time for vigilante drug testing....

UNBELIEVABLE run from the Norwegian!! National record, 21 years old.

What happened Willis?

Datron wrote:

Link to the race, if interested.

http://db.tt/AYZqqTB2

THANK YOU

MMMBacon wrote:

lol @ Kenya

Yes and lmfao @ WADA

Big ups to Manzano and Centrowitz, they both ran balls out. Awesome.

Regarding the winner, I can't say I've ever seen a relatively anonymous guy blow the doors off of the entire field in the Olympic 1500 Final so badly that he could coast the last 75 meters to victory. But whatever, I'm happy for our guys. Wouldn't be at all surprised if USA winds up with gold and bronze.

proof to all these ignorant a$$holes that think all is pink and rosy and a minority are cheating. The fact that this guy gets to the line, can win and deprive Manzano of the greatest moment of his life is so depressing and tragic.

Where are all you delusional puritans now it has directly cost one of your own.

F%$k this crap - reason I quit the sport. Two in a row - good job IAAF and WADA

Equinox2100 wrote:

Datron wrote:

Link to the race, if interested.

http://db.tt/AYZqqTB2

THANK YOU

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dope colored glasses wrote:

Congrats to Leo - what an incredible run. It's not hard to pick out the cheaters though, and Makhloufi definitely has the "sketchy as hell" vibe. I'm happy for Mazano, but I'm completely bummed out that an obvious cheater has been let through the gate and awarded the gold. Time for vigilante drug testing....

I'll be shocked if the winner isn't dirty, but that being said, had he not been in the race, it may have played out in a completely different way, and Manzano could very well have been left out of the medals altogether. It's a crazy event.

I just wonder how fast The Algerian could have run had his knee not been injured. Probably could have lapped the field.

nycn wrote:

Crushed wrote:

..I had never even heard of him until the heats for the 1500m...

Just because you've never heard of Taoufik Makhloufi doesn't mean that there is anything fishy. For the knowledgeable he is a known quanity and has run 3:30.80 and has been the WC and won the African Championships at both 1500 and 800. Better credentials than Centowitz or Manzano.

"has been the WC" - What?? I'm assuming you mean "World Champion." When was he world champion?? WTF???

I agree. Congrats Leo....awesome to see USA in Silver.