I'm retired. $2000 - $3000 per year would make me happy.
I'm retired. $2000 - $3000 per year would make me happy.
ttyrdyjud wrote:
gregmacd wrote:I priced out the food above at my local supermarket and found it had 7953 calories and cost $23.09. (See chart below). So its about $11.50/day for 4000 calories/day, which works out to $4,200 per year. Am I missing something?
Yes, you are missing something very obvious - You are shopping at the wrong supermarket.
LOL! I do live in an expensive area, so I'm not surprised that I'm paying $23 for $20 worth of food.
The real problem with your analysis is the calorie count. The food mentioned only has about 8000 calories, so if we use your $20 figure, 4000 calories cost $10. A pro runner would need at least 4000 calories per day. Figure 10 calories for every pound you weigh (about 1500 if you weight 150 lbs), 100 calories for every mile you run (about 1500 if you run 15 miles/day), and another 1000 for weight training, cross-training, and stretching. So that's 4000 (1500+1500+1000).
Thus, 4000 calories a day will cost you $10/day, $70/week, $304/month, or $3,650 a year on food. So there's no way you can be spending only $1000/yr on food
gregmacd wrote:
The real problem with your analysis is the calorie count. The food mentioned only has about 8000 calories, so if we use your $20 figure, 4000 calories cost $10. A pro runner would need at least 4000 calories per day. Figure 10 calories for every pound you weigh (about 1500 if you weight 150 lbs), 100 calories for every mile you run (about 1500 if you run 15 miles/day), and another 1000 for weight training, cross-training, and stretching. So that's 4000 (1500+1500+1000).
Thus, 4000 calories a day will cost you $10/day, $70/week, $304/month, or $3,650 a year on food. So there's no way you can be spending only $1000/yr on food
Well, clearly there is a way that I'm only spending that much on food, because that's how much I've been spending.
-4000 calories does not cost $10
-You don't need to run 15 miles per day (that's 105 mpw). 60-70 is fine.
-1000 calories for weight lifting is way too much. And stretching takes no calories - you're not even moving.
So 4000 calories is not necessary.
ttyrdyjud wrote:
-You don't need to run 15 miles per day (that's 105 mpw). 60-70 is fine.
60mpw is enough for someone who runs for living?
not enough wrote:
ttyrdyjud wrote:-You don't need to run 15 miles per day (that's 105 mpw). 60-70 is fine.
60mpw is enough for someone who runs for living?
Yes, it can be. Everyone does different training. Some guys do as little as 60 mpw and get great results. (800m,1500m,5k)
I don't know any pro runners who do only 10 miles/day. Even if you did that only saves you 500 calories. Maybe you can save another 500 by cutting the cross training in half. So you are still looking at 3000 calories per day, which is $7.50 a day based on the $10 for 4000 calories for the food mentioned. This is $2738, way more than the $1000 you mentioned. What is your cost for 3000 calories per day?
$10 is a lot for 4000 calories. I've already said this.
For example, rice costs ~$1 per 2800 calories.
I personally know a few good runners that do 10 miles per day. Also, doesn't Lagat only do like 60 or 70...for the 5k?
It does not take 100 calories for everyone to run a mile.
If you only eat rice, I can see how you can do it. But if you are eating the items that were previously quoted below, It'll cost you $10 for 4000 calories:
"2 lbs Potatoes- 1 dollar
1 whole chicken-4 dollars
1 pound Hamburger-3 dollars
Dozen eggs-2 dollars
1 pound pasta-1 dollar
1 pound Rice and Beans-1 dollar
Gallon of Milk-3 dollars
Loaf of Bread-1 dollar
4 dollars worth of seasonal and/or frozen vegies."
gregmacd wrote:
If you only eat rice, I can see how you can do it. But if you are eating the items that were previously quoted below, It'll cost you $10 for 4000 calories:
"2 lbs Potatoes- 1 dollar
1 whole chicken-4 dollars
1 pound Hamburger-3 dollars
Dozen eggs-2 dollars
1 pound pasta-1 dollar
1 pound Rice and Beans-1 dollar
Gallon of Milk-3 dollars
Loaf of Bread-1 dollar
4 dollars worth of seasonal and/or frozen vegies."
2 solutions (and/or):
1) Shop at a different supermarket
2) Don't eat those items
actually, here's a 3rd one
3: actually calculate the calories in each of those items you listed. A pound of rice and beans or a pound of pasta both cost a dollar you say? Well, a pound of those items also contains a crapload of calories. Probably right at 4000. Same with a loaf of bread. A gallon of milk contains somewhere around 2000-3000 calories (I don't know the exact number of the top of my head).
So how again will 4000 calories cost $10?
you're an idiot. enjoy your scurvy
Rotary10k wrote:
Well said. In the US, there is a very high opportunity cost for a college educated person to skip a career for many years to run. Unless you are Top Tier National Class to start with, you are likely to make much more money with a job than running. Then the job gets steady pay raises for years. A runner puts off starting that until running is done. They are unlikely to ever catch up to their peers in salary.
And why do runners make so little? Well, read this thread. Most suckers would run for slave wages. Sponsors know this and exploit it. What if someone offered you a job at a factory for $20k? And even that amount was contingent on meeting some production numbers with no evidence that it could even be done. Most would only take that if they were completely desperate.
Risk - reward
All those who comment about the price of protein per kilojoule have no clue to the fact decisions today don't resolve until 40 or more years from now. They do not understand that the choice is more am I an Ant or am I a Grasshopper than it is can I live cheap for a while.
sdfsdfd wrote:
you're an idiot. enjoy your scurvy
no youre the idiot for calling me an idiot with no explanation of where this scurvy is supposedly going to come from
I previously calculated $23.09 for the below items and a calorie count of 7953:
" Food: Cost: Calories:
2 lbs potatoes $1.98 636
1 whole chicken $1.69 960
1 lb hamburger $3.69 621
dozen eggs $1.98 960
1 lb pasta $3.59 608
1 lb rice beans $1.49 448
gallon of milk $3.19 2250
loaf of bread $1.48 1320
veggies $4.00 150
Total: $23.09 7953"
What do you eat besides rice?