MORE IMPRESSIVE by high school female: 2:00.91 GOLD medal or 4:11.01 6th place at World Jrs?

You seriously took the time to post that?

Let it go you friggin moron.

You have become the most annoying poster on this site, and that is saying something.

The Brojos are Aryan Brotherhood members and only marginally acknowledge the accomplishments of black athletes because they know that if they don't, they would only get traffic from other white supremacists.

Move into the present you useless relic. You're so upset because you wish that people just accept such oversight of superior African American athlete's performances!

Any true track fan know that 2:00.91 is far superior to 4:11.01 by high school female and not to mention one grab Gold and the other didn't appear on the podium at all.

NewCentury wrote:

Any true track fan know that 2:00.91 is far superior to 4:11.01 by high school female...

No.

"...Any true track fan know that 2:00.91 is far superior to 4:11.01 by high school female and not to mention one grab Gold and the other didn't appear on the podium at all."

Any true 3rd grader could convey this thought in a more cogent, grammatically correct form than you, Buckwheat.

Must suck for Wilson to have d-bags like you in her corner..

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but if we're talking objectively about the performances, I'd say 2:00.xx is significantly more impressive than 4:11.

For me personally, I went under 4:10 easily, off nothing but XC training. It wasn't for several months that I managed a ~2:00 800m performance.

Again, this probably will garner some flaming. But 1st place is also more impressive than 6th. The HSR is amazing, but I'd say Ajee's 800m does need more coverage.

You can't judge others' times based on your own abilities and limitations as a runner. My junior year of HS I broke 10:00 but couldn't go under 2:10 in the 800; this doesn't mean that 2:10 is a better performance than 10:00 - we all have our own strengths and weaknesses.

That being said, Ajee's 2:00 is certainly the better performance in terms of how competitive it is on a national and international level. Hope she runs a few meets over the summer and breaks the long-standing HS record.

Ajee Wilson should just enjoy her World Jr Gold, go home and prepare for her upcoming legendary collegiate carrer, and not worry about Letsrun's moderators or fans. Why should she even be concerned with breaking the most difficult HS female distance record? So it can be ignored by websites like T&FN and Letsrun and their fans because of her skin color?

At least on international website like IAAF Ajee was mentioned along with other winners and no mention of the talented Mary Cain. Yes Mary Cain is talented and ran great but no way should she have recieved more or even equal coverage to Ajee Wilson.

Let's put this in perspective, both US represented women did an outstanding job in their event. Wilson took gold in an event that US women rarely ever have such luck. She ran just a tad under 2:01 and I'm pretty sure that beside Kim Gallagher, no hs female has ever run that fast.. So US#2 all-time.. Cain on the other hand, took sixth on the world jr. level and ran a 4:11.01 1500.. the fastest a HS female has ever ran.. and by 3.49 seconds at that.. so both have their high points. However Cain is only 16 years old and has two more years of high school still to improve upon her legendary marks she has already established. Both in their own rights will go on to do amazing things. I will say this. I believe Cain would have been right up front in the 800 race and would also have had a legitimate shot at winning it, where as Wilson would have been dead last in the 1500 final. I don't think Wilson has a 4:20 1500 in her at this point in her career.

No way Cain beats Ajee in the 800. Just look how they each did in the Olympic Trials. And Cain's PR of 2:03.34 is a long way away from 2:00.9. And no way Cain beats Ajee in a open 400.

Cain ran a 2:03.34 almost 2 months ago and ran it alone in Windy and rainy conditions.. The wind was howling there. Cain definitely has a 2:00 in her.. the Olympic Trials didn't indicate her potential at all.

Purely based on the time, I think Mary Cain's performance is better. That is equivelant to 4:31.1 for the mile. That is ridiculous. Ajee has not yet accomplished her goal of sub 2, although I'm very proud of her for winning gold and running a great tactical race, she'll get a front page article and quote of the day if she does.

2:00 is weaker due to the "High School Skew" for girls where 2:05 is very good, 4:15 is a big deal, and 9:45 is untouchable. Underdeveloped endurance, even more than the boys. Ajee is behind Gallagher and just ahead of Chanelle. Cain is seriously gapped in front of Hasay, Plumer, etc..

That said, gold is gold. Ajee is magnificent. I call them dead heat in terms of achievement, with Cain getting the nod based on her youth.

the one year I raced the 800m I had a knee injury and couldn't run more than 1k or so at any pace before my knee would stiffen up and I couldn't bend it. So, I did pool workouts and stationary bike, plus icing the knee every day, and I ran 2:05 800m. I was running significantly less than 5 miles per week from September to May when I ran the 800m. In my whole life in my best shape, I've never broken 4:20 for 1500m even on 100mpw (when I ran 4:20). So, the kind of training that takes you to 4:11 is far harder than what takes you to 2 flat. In high school, endurance is lacking and virtually no one ever runs a world class time at 1500m and up, but world class times are quite commonly run at 100m/200m/400m/800m by 17-19 year olds. Mary Cain at just 16 is just over 2 seconds slower at 800m than Ajee Wilson at 18 and will probably beat her times in high school at 800m. But Wilson couldn't come anywhere near Cain's 1500m. Now, as a pro, Wilson will probably concentrate on 800m, but some move up and I'd be curious to see what she could do on 50-60 mpw at 1500m in five or ten years.

I'd not heard the news about Mary Cain's 4:11 till now.

Wow! What an awesome time and new HS record!

I'm very impressed.

Keep your mouth shut please. Yes Mary Cain is a very talented athlete and should break many HSR in the next couple years. Here's a few points to be made about the

WORLD JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIPS:

1.) A Gold medal means your finish 1st and every athlete went to the meet hoping to secure a GOLD MEDAL.

2.) Ajee's 2:00.91 was better by less then 15 Americans last year and no collegiate this year. Over 30 women ran faster then Mary Cain's HSR.

a. Mary Cain ran a 4:11.01 HSR breaking a much softer 1500m then Kim Galleghers 800m 2:00.07 HSR.

3.) wdude- Mary Cain raced Ajee Wilson this year and guess what was the outcome. Ajee defeated her in the 800m. Mary may run 2:00 but she definitely couldn't have done what Ajee done THIS YEAR!

Letsrun just proved to TRUE track fans that this website isn't mature and objective enough to be more then a haven alot of juveniles and a website of 3rd tier status.

Here's to hoping they do better with reporting the 2012 Olympics.

I agree with anything you capitalized. I wouldn't have noticed gold, or even stopped to consider what place that was, but GOLD did get my attention, especially the second time.

Ajee had to be more impressive, as Mary Cain got no fully capitalized words.

Also, for the first time, I noticed that your name is in all caps, so that answers a question I don't have to ask.

Keeping it classy, VIPAM?

I'm sorry, but this really is not rocket science. Cain absolutely smashed the U.S. High School record, and Wilson didn't. Yes, of course championships are impressive, but breaking a U.S. High School record in the distance events is very rare, and breaking it by such a large margin is truly remarkable.

An even better question is why people like you insist on dwelling upon the negative aspects of this? If the logic and facts associated with the relative merits of these two performances escapes you, that's fine. I don't expect the LRC message board to be populated with Rhodes Scholars, but your antagonistic attitude is both ridiculous and unwarranted.