I think I finally found someone I hate more than dean k
I think I finally found someone I hate more than dean k
Didn't he DNF the '08 trials? What a joke. Someone should give the baby his bottle and let him train. Worst (best?) case scenario: he actually does it and we have a new way to train. 3:57 mile lol. Isn't Hall's PR 4:01? Although, haile has run 3:31. Would love to see this clown get on the track.
I don't get why Runners World made a point of going after him. There are plenty of crazies out there. They could have stopped after a few questions and made it clear that this guy was nuts, but scott douglass had to go be a jackoff and try to humiliate a talented guy who clearly has some sort of mental issue. Way to go, RW. Crazy as he is, Call runs faster than anybody who writes for RW, that's for sure.
Hahahaha, dude will never even qualify for OT Marathon again now that downhill courses can't be used. No way he ever runs sub 2:20 again, probably even 2:25 with this mindbogglingly stupid plan.
As a numbers guy, I would have posed the following question to him:
"If you think running a 4:34 mile with a 40 lb vest is enough of an indication for you to hold that pace for 26.2 miles, then isn't your 4:40 mile also an indication you can hold that pace for 26.2 miles? Why not move onto steps 2-4 from your 4:40 mile, smash the 2:03 barrier, make a shitload of money in the process, then disappear for a couple of years and come back and put that record way out of reach?"
Actuary runner wrote:
As a numbers guy, I would have posed the following question to him:
"If you think running a 4:34 mile with a 40 lb vest is enough of an indication for you to hold that pace for 26.2 miles, then isn't your 4:40 mile also an indication you can hold that pace for 26.2 miles? Why not move onto steps 2-4 from your 4:40 mile, smash the 2:03 barrier, make a shitload of money in the process, then disappear for a couple of years and come back and put that record way out of reach?"
As a reality guy, I do not believe there is any way that he ran a 4:40 mile with a 40 pound weight vest. Isn't the rule of thumb 2 seconds per mile per/pound. Subtracting 40 pounds, that would be a 3:20 mile. (And the weight of the vest is not evenly distributed over the entire body).
Belgian Waffle wrote:
Isn't the rule of thumb 2 seconds per mile per/pound. Subtracting 40 pounds, that would be a 3:20 mile. (And the weight of the vest is not evenly distributed over the entire body).
It's only a rule of thumb though, and it assumes a lot of things. My guess is his extra upper-body strength allows him to carry extra weight quicker. But indeed 4:40 with a weight is quite good.
Duyrtyg wrote:
I think I finally found someone I hate more than dean k
Geez did he steal your girlfriend or something? even if you think his experiment is stupid, just let him do his own thing.
This guy reminds me of the TimeCube guy (look it up).
Why is it 40lbs and not 45 or 35? What is magical about this 40lb vest?
While I think he will not come close to breaking 2:00 and probably wont even run 2:10, I'm interested to see how this goes.
He has an intuition about a result, a method, and the will to test it on himself, underlining in the process that he doesn't consider himself to be better than anyone else.
All the posters here do is call him stupid and ignore the proposals of his method.
I therefore submit that you all collectively reek of douchebaggery.
I'd be willing to finance part of his training for the year to 18 months he says it would take. He has to live, eat, and drink training though. I'm not financing internet, phone, car, etc. Only the necessities to focus solely on training. How do i get in touch with this guy.
gramthlete wrote:
He has an intuition about a result, a method, and the will to test it on himself, underlining in the process that he doesn't consider himself to be better than anyone else.
All the posters here do is call him stupid and ignore the proposals of his method.
I therefore submit that you all collectively reek of douchebaggery.
Only letsrun with it's troll collective could actually defend this delusional moron.
Only letsrun with it's troll collective could actually defend this delusional moron.[/quote]
it's what?
gramthlete wrote:
He has an intuition about a result, a method, and the will to test it on himself, underlining in the process that he doesn't consider himself to be better than anyone else.
All the posters here do is call him stupid and ignore the proposals of his method.
I therefore submit that you all collectively reek of douchebaggery.
He only has the "will to test it on himself" if someone steps forward and pays all of his living expenses-- which is something a lot of really good pros don't get. If you don't see how stupid, ignorant, and egomaniacal that is, I don't know what to tell you.
gramthlete wrote:
He has an intuition about a result, a method, and the will to test it on himself, underlining in the process that he doesn't consider himself to be better than anyone else.
All the posters here do is call him stupid and ignore the proposals of his method.
I therefore submit that you all collectively reek of douchebaggery.
Excepting the last sentence, I agree with the above poster. I'd like to see how much improvement this guy makes with his methods. What if he ends up sub-2:10? Would you still dog the guy?
gramthlete wrote:
He has an intuition about a result, a method, and the will to test it on himself, underlining in the process that he doesn't consider himself to be better than anyone else.
All the posters here do is call him stupid and ignore the proposals of his method.
I therefore submit that you all collectively reek of douchebaggery.
The thing is, he doesn't have the will to test it on himself. I'm all for people thinking of new training methods but I'm not supporting a guy who complains that he will only be able to do it if someone pays him. Working full time might not produce the most ideal time, but if his method is worthy of a sub 2 hour marathon then he should be able to produce at least a sub 2:10 on it THEN be able to get money. If he really believes in it then why is he screwing around with obstacle courses?
I for one hope someone just comes out of the woodwork and gives him some cash. Runners make a pittance as it is, how expensive could it be to support this guy for a year or two? I don't believe there's a chance he could break 2:00, but at the very least this would make for a very entertaining story.
theohiostate wrote:
Excepting the last sentence, I agree with the above poster. I'd like to see how much improvement this guy makes with his methods. What if he ends up sub-2:10? Would you still dog the guy?
What exactly are his methods? How does he train? What does he do to get himself from a 4:34 mile to a 4:34/mile 10k, other than just removing weight? And if all he has to do is remove weight, why not just go out and run a marathon with no weights right now? According to his revolutionary theories, that 4:40 mile with 40 pounds of weight should be good for at least a PR.