good for them,,,their dreams are becoming reality
good for them,,,their dreams are becoming reality
People need to realise that Sally Pearson's dominance isn't due to the fact that she's an extraordinary athlete, it's due to the fact that women hurdlers suck. FFS the female 100mh scene consists mainly of women who can't break 11.5 for a flat 100m and don't even have great hurdling technique to make up for it. Plus there's the fact that their hurdles are so tiny it's ridiculous. And on the subject of doping, Sally Pearson's 100m flat PB goes back to 2007, despite the fact that she regularly races over it every year. So, unless she's found some technique-enhancing drugs that no one else knows about...
jjjjjjj wrote:what training do the top women 1500m do? put up or drop this topic where you are uncharacteristically ignorant.
idiot
i can assure you one thing
pretty obvious they don't put in the weights-work enough
like i said - look at the kennster's thighs
extra speed kills at any distance upto 5k
the current 1500 women have no speed
simple fact, mens 1500 can be threat behind rudy - asbel at 1'43.1
no women's 1500 runners have been close to a top - 8 threat at 800 in years - jamal was last one & she coud only run 1'59.0 at her 3'56.1 prime
ventolin^3 wrote:
no women's 1500 runners have been close to a top - 8 threat at 800 in years - jamal was last one & she coud only run 1'59.0 at her 3'56.1 prime
What do you consider top 8? I can think of a few 4:00 or better women that are 1:58 runners (including last year's number one).
jjjjjjj wrote:what training do the top women 1500m do? put up or drop this topic where you are uncharacteristically ignorant.
apologies
meant to say speed is king - meaning some proper 800 speed for 1500
coe went 1'41, cram 1'42.8, baala/asbel 1'43.1, noah 1'44.6 split in 1k
i can't find 1 current women 1500 runner who has shown/potentially shown, 800 speed within ~ 2s of the current 1'53.2wr
recent women 1500 runners don't have 800 speed of male 1500 runners ( asbel/baala are recent )
they don't seem to offer much better than 1'59, nearly 7s outside wr, compared to 2s for male
that indicates to me that women's 1500 times CAN'T be same calibre as men - they don't have the 800 speed - even silas/gus have gone 1'44 -> 3s+ of 800wr ( 1'55+ equivalent for women )
Henry Sherman wrote:What do you consider top 8? I can think of a few 4:00 or better women that are 1:58 runners (including last year's number one).
a <<4'00 obviously
Nike shill.
Western Roller wrote:
Last night there were three separate threads that posted the Arbitaration ruling with Mark Block. That ruling specified in paragraphs 1.4 and 10.2.2 what Mr. Block could not do. In general he basically could not coach or act as an agent for athletes for the next 10 years. It was also clear that there was no restriction on his movement to attend track and field meets, to talk with friends who may be athletes, and basically be a fan of the sport. All three of these threads, along with the Arbitration ruling (in full) have been removed. I ask is it more important to get the FACTS on the table, or is it more important to keep the lies, rumors and inuendos alive ($$$ for LR)? Shame on you!!
You are a clueless bum. That girl is doped to the gills!
some old docs about the Chinese doping program/training, including why they dropped so many from the 2000 Olympic team just before going (where they were still caught with many vials of EPO).
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/sports/global/28doping.html
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-09-14/sports/9309140145_1_wang-junxia-chinese-women-record
http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/crash-training-wang-and-qu-431
more dirty types wrote:
Ethios in the 5000
Tyson Gay (bff w/Steve Mullings)
Gatlin
Mike Rodgers
black people are on drugs, black people cheat!!! white people are honest and clean! It's not FAIR!!!! WAHHHHH!!!!!
(crybaby)
jjjjjjj wrote:
some old docs about the Chinese doping program/training, including why they dropped so many from the 2000 Olympic team just before going (where they were still caught with many vials of EPO).
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/sports/global/28doping.htmlhttp://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-09-14/sports/9309140145_1_wang-junxia-chinese-women-recordhttp://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/crash-training-wang-and-qu-431
will go ahead and discredit any article that says there is no advantage for a marathoner to go over 70mpw
In addition Sally is white. No way we white folks cheat!
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People need to realise that Sally Pearson's dominance isn't due to the fact that she's an extraordinary athlete, it's due to the fact that women hurdlers suck. FFS the female 100mh scene consists mainly of women who can't break 11.5 for a flat 100m and don't even have great hurdling technique to make up for it. Plus there's the fact that their hurdles are so tiny it's ridiculous. And on the subject of doping, Sally Pearson's 100m flat PB goes back to 2007, despite the fact that she regularly races over it every year. So, unless she's found some technique-enhancing drugs that no one else knows about...
Usain has also been an outstanding talent since his teens. Gatlin was an outstanding talent since his teens and marion Jones was an outstanding talent as a teen. What's your point?
teenwolf wrote:
Usain has also been an outstanding talent since his teens. Gatlin was an outstanding talent since his teens and marion Jones was an outstanding talent as a teen. What's your point?
Gatlin and Jones had one of the top drug pushers in the post-Cold War era for a coach.
I still think Jones and Gatlin are innocent, one had to admit to it after the fact the other mysteriously tested positive for an untestable substance.
o.O wrote:
I still think Jones and Gatlin are innocent, one had to admit to it after the fact the other mysteriously tested positive for an untestable substance.
which is why your opinion means zilch
I'm seriously suspect on several performances and performers from the Paris meets. My goodness the depth of such extraordinary performance must make every serious fan of the sports question WTH? Sally Pearson, Women's 1500m, Men's 5000m all are without question extraordinary performances in cool and wet conditions.
The most suspect is the women's 1500m winner. She actually just ran for the win and simply towed behind the leader before blasting the last 85m to easily secure the victory. She certainly look to be running within herself for a season lead and national record by over THREE seconds for a 3:56.1 victory, she could have certainly ran 3:53 if she was running for time instead of simply winning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUJgEhVkGAQ
WTH is going on with the women's 1500m 1st and 2nd place finishers (when the last time they were tested before the meet) and the men's 5000m with so many sub 12:50 is absurd!!!!!
VIPAM wrote:The most suspect is the women's 1500m winner. She actually just ran for the win and simply towed behind the leader before blasting the last 85m to easily secure the victory. She certainly look to be running within herself for a season lead and national record by over THREE seconds for a 3:56.1 victory, she could have certainly ran 3:53 if she was running for time instead of simply winning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUJgEhVkGAQWTH is going on with the women's 1500m 1st and 2nd place finishers (when the last time they were tested before the meet)
good observation
this atlasian does look in at least 3'54 shape, even if only paced to bell ( assuming even pace )
and the men's 5000m with so many sub 12:50 is absurd!!!!!
no
that one is just expected
( & i'm not saying that because no atlasians/ottomans in it )
teenwolf wrote:
Usain has also been an outstanding talent since his teens. Gatlin was an outstanding talent since his teens and marion Jones was an outstanding talent as a teen. What's your point?
Henry Sherman wrote:
Gatlin and Jones had one of the top drug pushers in the post-Cold War era for a coach.
Sally Pearson doesn't need to rely on PEDs. She has put in an awesome amount of work, has flawless technique, good flat speed, and you, sir, are a scoundrel to even suggest that this fine Queenslander is a drug cheat.
not a hurdler wrote:
teenwolf wrote:Usain has also been an outstanding talent since his teens. Gatlin was an outstanding talent since his teens and marion Jones was an outstanding talent as a teen. What's your point?
Henry Sherman wrote:
Gatlin and Jones had one of the top drug pushers in the post-Cold War era for a coach.
Sally Pearson doesn't need to rely on PEDs. She has put in an awesome amount of work, has flawless technique, good flat speed, and you, sir, are a scoundrel to even suggest that this fine Queenslander is a drug cheat.
I have done no such thing. I'm a big fan of Sally's, having met her numerous times. She's a genuinely nice person and I'd be happy to see her take gold next month.