HEPS Cross Country 2012

Almost all of the teams competing at Wisconsin left on Wednesday, so they could arrive by Wednesday evening and have Thursday to adjust to the time zone and see the course. They missed three days of class.

in the know..... wrote:

Almost all of the teams competing at Wisconsin left on Wednesday, so they could arrive by Wednesday evening and have Thursday to adjust to the time zone and see the course. They missed three days of class.

Stanford's team left Wednesday morning - students are missing 3 entire days of class. I think it is absurd and should not be allowed. These are not pro athletes - they are students. No matter how much importance is attached to athletics, these should be students first, athletes second - and a far second, in my opinion.

in the know..... wrote:

Almost all of the teams competing at Wisconsin left on Wednesday, so they could arrive by Wednesday evening and have Thursday to adjust to the time zone and see the course. They missed three days of class.

Seriously? The time difference is hardly even noticeable.

Seriously, this stuff is terrible for The Sport. I realize that some facilities e.g. Van Cortlandt Park may be difficult to schedule on a weekend, because there are so many calls for their use; but a lot of these college meets are held on facilities that could just as readily be used on a weekend as a Friday. What's the problem with having a big meet on Saturday--or even (heaven forfend) a Sunday? In the latter case, a team could fly out on Friday PM (not too many classes are scheduled then); have Saturday for a chance to relax, see the course, maybe even do some schoolwork; Sunday morning to run the meet, and Sunday PM to fly home. Why is that "impossible"?

In all seriousness, I don't get it.

we certainly will get an early prognosis of HEPS out here at the Wisco meet. Too bad Kyle Merber will be scoring for Texas. The Longhorns are at our hotel, so I'll see if he'll let me spray paint his singlet Robin's Egg Blue.

van wrote:

we certainly will get an early prognosis of HEPS out here at the Wisco meet. Too bad Kyle Merber will be scoring for Texas. The Longhorns are at our hotel, so I'll see if he'll let me spray paint his singlet Robin's Egg Blue.

If you do, do get a photo of it!

And everyone else, I think weekend meets definitely make the sport more spectator friendly as well since the spectators do not need to cut from work to watch the races (same with track meets too).

I'm going to try to follow this on twitter... does anyone know what # they may be using for it?

kibitzer wrote:

Some team photos for Wisco entrants are up on HTC. I notice that K. Kellner seems to be missing for the Cornell women--any word on that?

[...unless she's in the photo and I missed her. Sorry, white women tend to look alike to me. She's not the one third from right, is she? I thought she was taller...]

I'm pretty sure that's not Katie Kellner. I don't think she appears in the pic. Haven't heard anything re injury (or any other reason for absence), but if she's out that would be a big blow to the Big Red in this meet--she took second at Paul Short.

And if she should be gone for the season (no!), that would certainly put the Heps team title up for grabs--although Cornell has so much depth this year, they might still pull it off.

I guess we will have to check the results then...

Twitter info,

@Badger_Track | #adidasInvite

Championship Races

• Women's 6K - Noon

• Men's 8K - 12:40 p.m.

"B" Races

• Women's 6K - 1:20 p.m.

• Men's 8K - 2 p.m.

kibitzer wrote:

Seriously, this stuff is terrible for The Sport. I realize that some facilities e.g. Van Cortlandt Park may be difficult to schedule on a weekend, because there are so many calls for their use; but a lot of these college meets are held on facilities that could just as readily be used on a weekend as a Friday. What's the problem with having a big meet on Saturday--or even (heaven forfend) a Sunday? In the latter case, a team could fly out on Friday PM (not too many classes are scheduled then); have Saturday for a chance to relax, see the course, maybe even do some schoolwork; Sunday morning to run the meet, and Sunday PM to fly home. Why is that "impossible"?

In all seriousness, I don't get it.

In all seriousness, I agree with you 100% and had exactly the same thought. I believe quite a few soccer matches are held on Sundays.

I am probably wrong, but I seem to remember that some schools actually had rules limiting the number of classes that a student could miss due to sports scheduling - seems like it was 6 at Harvard, but I really don't remember.

Does anyone know if any such rules exist, or is this pretty much up to the athletic department to determine? Honestly , if I were a student again, with the sort of class load I used to take, I would very seriously consider dropping varsity running and just running with a club team on my own schedule.

Anyway, I am very much looking forward to seeing the Harvard men run - it looks like they have their full complement of distance guys there at Wisconsin today.

It occurs to me (Wisco still doesn't seem to have women's results posted--grrr) that perhaps K. Kellner was the one who took that Cornell group photo? Entry list had ten names, with only nine women in the picture...

OTOH, if the Big Red really finished fifth *and* without Big Sis, that would be hella impressive. (Fifth in that field is impressive, anyway.)

Sorry to hear that Abbey D'A. didn't run. What's up with that?

Yale women finished 15th.

Columbia men were in the top 5 near the end of the race, but I have no idea yet on how they finished. I'd be surprised if they bested Princeton, but it looks like they did.

According to twitter, Kyle Merber got trampled during the race but got up to finish. Based on the speed he got onto twitter, it looks like he's addicted to it, lol.

Princeton men think they got 10th (according to twitter) and apparently the women results are still being compiled.

Only nine girls traveled. Ten entered but nine made the trip. there is a pic up on facebook with only nine girls in it the day they left.

bigred2222222 wrote:

Only nine girls traveled. Ten entered but nine made the trip. there is a pic up on facebook with only nine girls in it the day they left.

So who (of the ten) didn't go?

not sure, but the top 7 all raced including Katie. I'm guessing someone who was supposed to run in the open race didn't travel, because their top 7 are all in the pic and then they have their 8th and 9th girls in there as well. So the 10th girl just didnt go......

Thanks for the info!

According to the Harvard TF Twitter feed, there was a problem with the chip system and a number of errors were found on the unofficial results. I don't know if this will impact the top finishing teams but it's the reason for the long delay in the official results getting posted.

According to a Cornell's runner twitter feed, five of the Cornell guys fell at the beginning of the race and got trampled as well.

Word is John Bleday (Dartmouth's #2) got trampled and DNFed. Hurt ankle.