A good article on Symmonds being a big business guy.
http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2012/06/us_olympic_trials_nick_symmond.html
Wheating says Symmonds is full of good ideas but had better watch out and make sure he doesn't piss off the shoe company.
Wheating is right on the money. You pick up a $11,000 sponsor but lose the $75,000 one.
I thought I liked Nick Symmonds. I'm pretty sure I don't any more
i hate this hilton crap, but the sport needs guys like Symmonds and Fam to get more money and support in. I like Nick for the fact that he is willing to stand up for the athletes.
Big Zeb wrote:
I thought I liked Nick Symmonds. I'm pretty sure I don't any more
I was even minded before. I'm pretty sure I am small minded now...
Absolutely, how astute of you. Not liking someone is definitely small minded - fact.
Sorry, but Symmonds thinks he is more important than he actually is. He is a guy who is an international never was, and it won't be long before he is a national has been. Not many care about his running or even know who he is. He ought to be thinking about what he will do for the next 50 years of his life after his runnning life ends.
The fact that he wants to spend time with another nobody like Paris Hilton says it all.
sdfhsdfjkhs wrote:
Sorry, but Symmonds thinks he is more important than he actually is. He is a guy who is an international never was, and it won't be long before he is a national has been. Not many care about his running or even know who he is. He ought to be thinking about what he will do for the next 50 years of his life after his runnning life ends.
The fact that he wants to spend time with another nobody like Paris Hilton says it all.
The guy has been in the past two world championship 800m finals and is favored to make the 800m final in London. Give me a break "Never was".
i think symmonds is spot on. why not get a little glory and some money to go with it?
Eff the shoe companies.
girls gone wild wrote:
i hate this hilton crap, but the sport needs guys like Symmonds and Fam to get more money and support in. I like Nick for the fact that he is willing to stand up for the athletes.
BS.
what extra money and support has Symmonds drawn in for the sport? Nothing. He's gotten himself a bit of attention here and there -- which he certainly loves -- but hasn't done anything for the sport.
his legs are too short. disregard him.
never trust anyone with short legs. live by this rule.
Yes, but Symmonds is attempting to generate publicity for himself and the sport which is more than just about anyone but Usain Bolt can say. I don't understand why any track & field fan would object to bringing more public attention to our sport. It would be great if our athletes didn't have to pull stunts like getting a celebrity to come and hang out with one of the athletes in order to get more significant press coverage, but when the glory days of your sport are gone and your athletes are no longer international stars who can hold their own in terms of name recognition and the ability to get mainstream sports coverage, then you have to do whatever it takes to build sustainable interest. I don't think Paris Hilton is the key to sustainable interest in T&F, but it's a start, right? Aside from the Olympics, PED busts, and a few major marathons, nobody pays attention to our sport. I applaud Symmonds for trying. Wheating and the rest should take a page from his book and try to promote themselves and be ambassadors for the sport. If we want T&F to grow and be successful, it has to mean more to those outside of this fervent community or it will forever matter only for ~2 months every four years.
lalala wrote:
his legs are too short. disregard him.
never trust anyone with short legs. live by this rule.
I thought it was anybody with a pig farm that you were not supposed to trust?
Symmonds has a D3 inferiority complex and feels like he needs to grab attention any way possible.
I'm not sure how I feel about Symmonds but I think I have to like him. Although some of his "antics" and self promotion may seem a bit much; shouldn't someone be promoting our athletes?!
The unfortunate thing is that the athletes HAVE to do it themselves rather than havin the governing body do it for them. Lolo Jones has managed to very successfully promote herself despite a relative lack of credentials when compared to some of our other athletes, but she's managed to do it in such a way that it doesn't feel like she's throwing herself in our faces. She clearly has a great agent and is likely very calculated and intelligent herself.
What's funny to me, going back to Symmonds, is to see guys who claim to be big Pre fans (Wheating) who have anything remotely negative to say about Symmonds attempts at self promotion. It was interesting to read an article about Wheating stating his love for Pre, particularly the "pure guts race" quote, and then saying that he only ran to win...and now this about Symmonds.
I'm not saying that Symmonds has the record of Pre or that Pre should be the standard. It does seem logica, though,l that for our sport to be sustainable SOMEONE needs to promote our athletes. Too bad it appears that the athletes are forced to do it themselves. And if a shoe company drops the 4x national champ and Olympic and World Champion 800m finalist because he's "making waves" then I think Symmonds point will only be proven further and we might really want to take a look at whether that company is truly interested in the growth of the sport or simply the protection of their brand...I believe that those two things are NOT mutually exclusive. I guess we'd then know what they believed.
forgive my mistakes above...iPhone plus lack of editor equals several grammar mistakes.
too bad Symmonds turned out to be an attention, money, and sex whore.
he has charisma, talent, and opportunity. i don't think his man-whore image will resonate with the majority of track fans.
If LetsRun.com existed decades ago, then this is the exact feedback you would be hearing towards Prefontaine from the message boards. Here's a guy trying to get attention for the sport. You may not always agree with the ways he does it, but you can't deny he loves the sport. He's one of the few people willing to climb the uphill battle to make things better.
Shoebacca wrote:
If LetsRun.com existed decades ago, then this is the exact feedback you would be hearing towards Prefontaine from the message boards. Here's a guy trying to get attention for the sport. You may not always agree with the ways he does it, but you can't deny he loves the sport. He's one of the few people willing to climb the uphill battle to make things better.
+1
lalala wrote:
his legs are too short. disregard him.
never trust anyone with short legs. live by this rule.
according to Robert Plant you should never trust a big legged woman