Verzbicas wins ITU World Cup, drops a 30:55 on the run leg.

of course I meant "try to explain" triathlon for lets run ...

Sounds super competitive when you can go from 40th to 1st place after running just under 5 minute pace... A bunch of athletes! I bet I could wade in the water and peddle my bike, then run some cool 510 pace and finish top 30 !

It's tough and competitive, like ultras

I'll take that bet..

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

NO IT IS NO USUALLY SHORT...

Maybe your local tri is short which often occurs but the top tier triathlons are NOT USUALLY SHORT. There are the occasional mistake just like occasionally a marathon is miss measured[/m]. But this is rare.

Is she any relation to Bobby Measured of Jackson, NJ?

buffet rule not wrote:

considering the fact that olympics was won with a 30:46 10k in 2008, you might want to check your facts before posting on something you clearly don't know anything about.

My guess is that was a pretty hot day. I would take 10K triathlon times with a grain of salt---to my knowledge, the rules do not even require a course to certified as being the said distance.

"4) Good luck to Lukas Verzbikas."

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"4) Good luck to Lukas Verzbikas."

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Call me sanctimonious, self-righteous if you will but the argument here has never been about whether not the Triathlon is a valid sport with dedicated and wholly committed competitors. You've got to be one tough mother both in body and mind to train and continually deal with all the physical and psychological demands of the sport. That's why Verzbikas is ideal for the sport and is now beginning to reach International levels of excellence! Aerobic monster, smooth tactician, rock-solid determination are all platitudes that describe the competitive nature of this very talented young man!

However,

Team spirit, fidelity and loyality to a group effort, contractual obligation and honesty seem to be concepts foreign to his mentality! If he wanted to leave Oregon after his first cross country season, then that was his right, his prerogative and his choice! No intelligent minded participant in either sport of competitive running or the Triathlon would begrudge him the freedom of making this choice! It was simply is his decision.

It was however the way he went about facilitating that contentious and controversial break, that has caused so much consternation and outrage.

No likes the feeling of being a tool in another mans hands, no one likes being used for the glory and financial gain of something you identify as being outside of yourself. It was either something he saw, something he was expected to do, or some kind of outrageous behavior that instigated his shift of loyality!...........or was it?

Since he won't come clean and tell the public like it really was and why he felt it necessary to exit the team, being in good physical shape with only two races left, he can't expect that same public to respect a private action that had such a profound public consequence!

I don't need to know this young mans BM, whom he dates, what he eats, etc. I completely respect his privacy and anonymity. But, if his superb athletic efforts are going to continue to be celebrated across the Internet, grabbing juicy headlines and webpage articles, then both he and those that support him within the sporting community of the Triathlon, need to realize that the criticism will not stop until he reconciles with the those whom he insulted!

Perhaps there are members of the cross-country squad at Oregon who need to appoligize to him for treating him with distain and contempt, winding him up and giving him the cold shoulder whenever possible? Being jilted never feels right no matter what direction the action is coming from.

So no, I don't wish him good luck and good fortune. Why should I when he deliberatly sabotaged the fortune of innocent competitors?

There's certainly no crime in being succussful and making the most of the talents that God/Nature gave you! But......not at the personal expense of those whom trusted you to fulfill your contractual obligation to them.

30:55 is pretty good. Add between 1 or 2 minutes for the up to 10% short course per regulations and you still got sub 33min 10k --> after swimming and cycling. Well done.

ex-ITU racer wrote:

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Lukas is showing promise, but would be interesting to see how he does against decent competition, this was a weak field. The swim at Banyoles was slow, and tactics in ITU races with the Brownlees are now different. Gone are the days you can rely on a fast run. If you cant swim sub 18mins and be top 10/15 out the water, your likely miss the Brownlee bike pack and not see them again

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Relatively accurate.

Kitzbuhel results today

The top swimmer was out of the water in 18:02... the Brownlees were out a few seconds later. LV was out if the water in 18:56. He completely missed the break. He finished the Tri in 32nd...

Ok, he's got some improving ahead of him before he can be competitive. He did have the second fastest run of the day, but 44 seconds slower than the faster Brownlee.

It seems like he needs to improve his swim by 30 or 40 seconds or so before he can be competitive.

this was a tough course for LV to do well in because the bike was hilly. he was in the 2nd chase pack and it was completely unorganized and therefore wasn't able to catch the 1st chase pack or lead pack. from what i understand, he just sat in and didn't attempt to bridge the gap. on a flat bike, like SD was, he will do a lot better because he will be able to catch up to the faster swimmers on the bike (in SD, everyone came into t2 together).

it was a great learning experience for him today and now he knows he needs to work on his swim. it's not terrible -- giving up just 50 seconds to the best tri swimmers in the world is damn good -- but it needs to get better for him to move up. he's also only 19 and only has been training full-time for 6 months. give him some time.

He needs to learn better open water swim strategy/tactics...pool swimming is not open water swimming.

No one gives a flying fck. Go post this sht on LetsTri Lithuania.

He's a college dropout.

" fact that the olympic gold was won with a 30:46 10K completely refutes your silly post. end of story. not that it makes a difference (or that anyone would care) but you did NOT write "he needs to get to low 29s if the run is 9.7K."

i did find it mildly amusing that you claimed to have "trained with a Team USA member" (whatever that means. perhaps you held said person's jockstrap?) and that somehow makes your laughable post less laughable. the bottom line is that if LV can run in the 30s on the 10K in a tri, he not only will be competitive with the best in the world, he will beat most of the best in the world. do you have any more moronic posts for us today?[/quote]

Let me explain. I ran for Nike and about 2 maybe 3 times a week an elite triathlon athlete who represented the US team at the World Championships and one time in the Olympics would train with our training group when our training schedules worked out and he was in town. He often spoke of how inaccurate the World Cup "10k" distances were. One time it might be 29 another 32 or 33. Just the nature of the sport.

This event was not the Olympics. You are looking at one race. If you look at the World Cup events (these feature top elite triathletes) you will see a wide range of times. The winner is often in the 29's.

Now was that so hard to understand?

Just to put this into perspective, the Brownlee brothers who are completely and quite embarresingly dominating the sport at the moment regularly run sub-30s on 10k legs and will probably be in 29:30 shape by London.

Granted those two athletes are FAR ahead of the rest of the world.

LV ran 30:35 today, 2 sec faster than J. Brownlee, who ran the 3rd fastest 10k of the day and 16 sec faster than Gomez who ran the 4th fastest 10k of the day.

LV is ok on the run. He just needs a fast enough swim to make the break on the bike.

Jonny took it fairly easy on the run today given his situation. He did enough not to get caught.

It may indeed be a while before LV can get off the bike together with the Brownlees so that we can see if he can indeed compete with them on the run...

On the other hand, a wetsuit swim, a different course... May allow him to be with the lead pack earlier than we think...