Ritz

Let me see if I get this straight ... you run 7 but list up to 8 alternates (a roster of 15)?

From the looks of it they just list the whole team roster.

Josh Spiker is listed as a possible entrant for Wisconsin, but that doesn't mean he's running.

Well, another thread said Ritz is running, so he probably is.

Listed as entrants also;

Franklyn Sanchez for Georgetown

Josh Spiker for Wisconsin

Dathan Ritzenhiem for Colorado

Does Sanchez still have the grades to even be enrolled at Georgetown? That ADD shit has got to be played out.

Spiker is supposed to be doing a tempo run with postcollegiate studs and highschoolers before the meet.

Dathan is training...

I also saw an entrant with a broken foot. A redshirt for NAU whom I know is not running. Plus, and entrant for another school that is suspended from his team. Throw in Paul Morrison and his 8 years of eligibility, and you have a "what if" allstar team.

We'll see soon enough. Wetmore is far too logical to waste a season on Ritz. Look at it this way, if an 80% Spiker were to run for Wisconsin, the Badgers have just as much a shot at winning as Colorado does with Ritz...

Why didn't you ask if Ritz or Spiker have the grades to be enrolled at their schools? What is it about Sanchez that makes you single him out? Is it the fact that he looks different from Rutz and Spiker? Have you ever pursued a degree program in a language other than your native language? Have you ever studied a foreign language? How many languages do you speak? Have you borken any American records lately? Have you represented your country internationally lately? Did it ever occur to you before making your silly post that Franklyn Sanchez himself or people who know him would read it and immediately recognize it for the ubstantiated poppycock that it is? Do you consider yourself to be a bigot, a fake, an ignoramous - or do you just choose to act like that when the fancy hits you?

o.k. you have got to chill with the hysterics. Sanchez has ADD. That is not an attack on him or his running ability. His grades in H.S. as well as his SAT score sucked. That's why he took a postgrad year of h.s. That's why he "singled out" sanchez. jeez.

In my opinion, if ritz is healthy, and in any kind of decent shape (by his standards), then he will toe the line tomorrow. The reason being is that I find it unlikely that he will be at Colorado for 5 years. That being the case, why save eligibility?

It might be more of a question of health rather than eligibility.

Dude...

When did I attack his ethnicity, his ability to speak two languages or his running ability?

Fact; he did not enroll right out of HS because of his SAT and his grades. ADD is a disease, but Georgetown is also known for it's academics. I think he has taken on a huge challenge trying to achieve a degree from there. But, it is clear he is there for his running, otherwise, I cannot see him even getting into G'town on his academic merits. I think to lighten his academic load, he should transfer to a school that will allow him to graduate rather than just compete; if a degree is truly his goal for college.

Running ability; if he had not had the injuries and setbacks, I think he would of won an NCAA title at some distance already in his career.

Ethnicity; he's american. Where did I attack him here?

For the record; I am not only bi-langual. I speak 3 languages. My mother is algerian born french, I was born in the US, but english was my second language. I learned German while enrolled in a college that I graduated from.

No American records for me. But, I was a 10:40, 4:48 HS runner who made JUCO All American and lowered his 5K down to 14:57. So on american records for me, but I maximized my potential.

Dude; dont get so emotional. I was using him as an example in an arguement about Ritz being entered in NCAA's. If Sanchez were to run and is healthy, Georgetown is a Podium Team. If Spiker were to run for Wisconsin, they could be contenders for the win. If Ritz runs for Colorado, they could win as well...

Could....is the operative word. Like you could of finished reading my entire post before posting your response and believing it to be an attack on a person.

Peace

"Why didn't you ask if Ritz or Spiker have the grades to be enrolled at their schools? What is it about Sanchez that makes you single him out?"

I am a big Sanchez fan, and I was there to see him and Powell run their nasty indoor 2 mile. But at the same time you need to chill out. I think that if Ritz or Spiker graduated from a vocational-technical school, and were one of the only students to even go to college out of their graduating class, and if there was a similar language barrier difference that people would definitly ask questions about Ritz or Spiker's ability to stay grade elligible to compete.

You need to back off calling someone a bigot just because they question something about someone of a minority status. Just because he is hispanic doesn't mean that everyone who makes a remotely negative comment about him is a bigot.

A friend of mine he went to Rockford said Ritz scored a 1380 on the SAT, which is pretrty impressive for an athlete, but not stellar overall.

A fried of mine he graduated with Ritz's class said that Ritz scored a 1380 on the SAT, although not the highest in Rockford his senior year, but still pretty impressive for an athlete.

What is this? NCAA basketball? Ritz going to the NBA next year? Ritz won't run. He hasn't ran a race all season so why take the chance of losing a year of eligibility by running him. The only chance Colorado has of winning is if a 100% Ritz runs, and he's not 100%, at least in fitness.

Alan

Cmon now and Burke BC.... let's suspend reality for just a little while, and pretend that either of you actually knows for a fact that Sanchez has ADD or how much he scored on his SATs, how he did at Lynn Tech, or at Cushing during his PG year. Hell...Let's say he has ADD, scored 750 combined, and was a D student, what the hell does that have to do with the likelihood of Ritz competing tomorrow?!! - it would have sufficed to have mentioned that Sanchez was listed as an entrant but won't be competing tomorrow. In case you haven't heard, he's coming back from injury.

I saw no mention of that in either of your posts though, just lots of disparaging comments about his intellectual and academic capability and of that of his entire graduating class at Lynn tech and at other voc. schools. Why does either of you feel you're qualified to discuss his academic preparedness for Georgetown or what his academic or life aspirations should be? In case you're actually interested in learning something about the adversity which he has successfully confronted thus far in his short life, head on over to mensracing.com and have a look at the two interviews posted there.

Feel free to ask legitimate questions about people of any race, religion or culture based on factual information, not upon the heresay of people who are equally clueless as you are.

Oh, come on man... lighten up. If we're talking about the best basketball players and someone says they don't like Allen Iverson because they hate his attitude, that he's like a gangster, are they being racist because they went slightly off topic and insulted a person of color??? Ugh... please... The guy told a harmless joke, get a sense of humor.

You are the racist for saying that we can't say anything about someone of a race, because you assumed that the original poster was some white guy, which is racist. How do you know that the original poster wasn't hispanic?

And, in case you didn't realize, most of what we talk about here is heresay. Anyone can look up track results, we are on a message board to discuss if Ritz will come back or whether Torres will beat Boaz... we don't have facts, we're just talking and having fun.

No. I will not lighten up. Making unbstantiated claims about someone having ADD and about their intelligence / acadmic prowess in a PUBLIC forum does not constitute a "harmless joke". It makes as much sense as my writing about what your mother was doing last night.

If you read the last sentence of my 2nd post, you will see that I welcome reasonably substantiated posts about people of any race, religion or culture - not cowardly attacks on people you don't know. Why do you think I assumed the original poster was white? Please don't make assumptions for me. I never mentioned his race at any point - only his inappropriate behavior.

And I'm not sorry for asking you to be responsible for your actions. Not being able to make totally unsubstantiated claims about people you don't know might not seem like much fun to you, but that's your problem. I know Franklyn Sanchez, know the drivel you write here to be well off the mark, and I'm happy to take this opportunity to disabuse you and any like-minded nitwits of the validity of your claims. More importantly, I hope you have learned that just because no one knows who you are does not mean that you can engage in slanderous, ungracious behavior. Franklyn Sanchez has more class is his pinkie than you guys combined.

thriller wrote:

Well, another thread said Ritz is running, so he probably is.

Yeah if it's posted on this board then it MUST be true! If it's posted TWICE on this board, then all doubt is removed!

Checkyourself,

I've never heard of Sanchez's case of ADD,but he has volunteered information in the past regarding his academic struggles.Here's a few excerpts from some mensracing interviews.

MR.com: After you graduated from Lynn Tech (in Lynn, MA), you did a post-graduate year at Cushing Academy?

FS: Yes, that was a great experience there. I ran for the team but that was not my priority. The priority was academics. They helped me so much. I struggled a lot with school work because of my background. I went to Cushing Academy and it was the best experience I've ever had. I grew a lot as a person and I was more prepared to go to college. Although I still struggle, it was a good experience and I thought I needed that. I was not prepared academically. I had just turned 17 and one year of putting the running aside for a little bit helped.

MR.com: Do you know what you want to major in?

FS: I still haven't decided. I speak fluent spanish and I'm thinking about majoring in that, but I'm also thinking about sports psychology... Even though I speak spanish, it's still hard. I speak the language that was spoken at home, but I really don't know the true, true spanish. It makes me look back at why I really struggle so much with academics...

The things I've had, yes, I've worked hard, but she reminds me to always thank God. And I really, really thank God because if it weren't for for my running, for my athletic ability, I never would have been at Georgetown University. I'm the first one from my family to be going to college and that means a lot to me and my family.

http://www.mensracing.com/athletes/interviews/franklynsanchez.html

MR: How's school going? Have you decided on a major?

FS: School is actually going very well. The academics at Georgetown are quite arduous, it can be very challenging ? at least for me. But it is going well thank God. In terms of my major, I have decided to major in English with a concentration in Cultural Studies. Thus far, I am really enjoying it.

http://www.mensracing.com/athletes/keepingtrack/franklynsanchez.html

He's a great guy.Hopefully we'll see more of him in the future.