o.O wrote:
Its crazy, this kid performs really well
In the weakest NCAA 1500 fields ever.
Why did he skip a year, Was Robby Andrews that scary?
Yeah, Robby Andrews really dominated the NCAA 1500 last year, didn't he?
o.O wrote:
Its crazy, this kid performs really well
In the weakest NCAA 1500 fields ever.
Why did he skip a year, Was Robby Andrews that scary?
Yeah, Robby Andrews really dominated the NCAA 1500 last year, didn't he?
3:34, 12:58, 26:48 wrote:
The only way he gets a contract is to win NCAA's, Win the OT, and make the Oly Final...
The only way he does not get a contract is if he hangs it up.
He does not get a contract for his soph, junior, and senior years; he get's it for what he did as a 17 year old HS senior and 18 year old college frosh. He has shown as much pure talent as anyone to lace them up in the US.
Lets review:
- 4:22 as a 14 year old HS Frosh after not running XC and going out from track on a whim.
- wins california XC state meet as a Soph.
- injured for a year, come back right before cal state meet and run 9:03 for 3rd
- 14:28 on historic Cal course beating meet record by 10 seconds, better than meb, ryan hall, tons of other top cal runners. Flames out at footlocker.
- 4:00/8:37 double at cal state, surely the greatest hs double ever
- 8:34 2 mile in a pure HS race (no pros)
- good xc season as College frosh but comes up lame at ncaa
- 3:55, 7:47 indoor
- 11th at junior xc
- wins ncaa 1500 as frosh
- 13:25 us junior record
Not much to speak of after than.
In summary, shows a lot of very fast times at a pretty young age with very little training (lots of injuries in HS and supposedly was just a 60mpw guy when not injured).
You can not train talent, and pure talent will always limit how far you can go. Talent, of course, is not enough. If he can not stay injury free, then he'll never realize the talent, but that's a risk most sponsers will take, IMO, because the potential upside is there to be as good as anyone in the US in a few years.
It's good to see him healthy again. I was at the California state track meet and saw him run the double and that was the greatest high school distance performance I have ever seen. He is an elite talent but physically fragile. I always think of a race horse when I watch him run - a flowing stride, a joy in running, but look at those tiny little ankles! He is gutty but to me he is an out and out runner rather than a tactical racer. He likes to get out front and go.
blort wrote:
3:34, 12:58, 26:48 wrote:The only way he gets a contract is to win NCAA's, Win the OT, and make the Oly Final...
The only way he does not get a contract is if he hangs it up.
He does not get a contract for his soph, junior, and senior years; he get's it for what he did as a 17 year old HS senior and 18 year old college frosh. He has shown as much pure talent as anyone to lace them up in the US.
Lets review:
- 4:22 as a 14 year old HS Frosh after not running XC and going out from track on a whim.
- wins california XC state meet as a Soph.
- injured for a year, come back right before cal state meet and run 9:03 for 3rd
- 14:28 on historic Cal course beating meet record by 10 seconds, better than meb, ryan hall, tons of other top cal runners. Flames out at footlocker.
- 4:00/8:37 double at cal state, surely the greatest hs double ever
- 8:34 2 mile in a pure HS race (no pros)
- good xc season as College frosh but comes up lame at ncaa
- 3:55, 7:47 indoor
- 11th at junior xc
- wins ncaa 1500 as frosh
- 13:25 us junior record
Not much to speak of after than.
In summary, shows a lot of very fast times at a pretty young age with very little training (lots of injuries in HS and supposedly was just a 60mpw guy when not injured).
You can not train talent, and pure talent will always limit how far you can go. Talent, of course, is not enough. If he can not stay injury free, then he'll never realize the talent, but that's a risk most sponsers will take, IMO, because the potential upside is there to be as good as anyone in the US in a few years.
Actually not. All of the things done in the past are just that , the past.
He does not get a lane in Europe based on what he did as a high school kid.
His value will be based on what he is able to do today. Today his value is, a very good college runner with possible potential if he stays healthy. His injury cycle makes him a big risk.
What is he going to have to do to get attention and a possible offer ?
Compete in the 1500 final , race and be in the hunt , make the Oly trials final.
If he comes out of the NCAA's winning , a small stipend with bonus , no win at NCAA's , bonus deal only. Get's over to Europe this summer and runs well possible stipend added to bonus deal. By a long shot he makes the Oly team he gets a contract. ( stipend and bonus )
17 years old in Diamond league running 350 mile
How has no one commented on the spelling in the title? 'Germam Fernanzez', really?
El Vato is back my frend
Azaleas wrote:
How has no one commented on the spelling in the title? 'Germam Fernanzez', really?
Maybe because, "Gee, wasn't that so important?"
You feel better about yourself now?
run to the light wrote:
It's good to see him healthy again. I was at the California state track meet and saw him run the double and that was the greatest high school distance performance I have ever seen. He is an elite talent but physically fragile. I always think of a race horse when I watch him run - a flowing stride, a joy in running, but look at those tiny little ankles! He is gutty but to me he is an out and out runner rather than a tactical racer. He likes to get out front and go.
Very well said. It's posts like this that keep me coming back to this board.
Azaleas wrote:
How has no one commented on the spelling in the title? 'Germam Fernanzez', really?
I was so excited after watching the race I did not put on my glasses when I was typing. The "n" and "m" are next to each other on the key board. When thing are a blurr they look the same. When you become an oldoldrunner you'll understand.
So, I am sorry...GERMAN FERNANDEZ.
Run for it all wrote:
Yeah, I hope he again throws that tactical race out the window and goes for the 3:39.
Would people please stop calling slower races "tactical". Taking the lead and pushing the pace from the gun is also a tactic.
Giant Johnson wrote:
Would people please stop calling slower races "tactical". Taking the lead and pushing the pace from the gun is also a tactic.
Oh look, it's another a$$hole who wants to play literal semantics. Ok, let's play.
Why do you say "pushing the pace?" In a race, you "push nothing.
Why do you you "Taking the lead." You really "take" nothing.
What about "from the gun?" The gun has no pace so how can you push the pace from it?
The reason we use the term tactical is that it is a phrase with a connotation that everyone except idiots like you understands and thus gives us a point from which to communicate.
fgfg wrote:
17 years old in Diamond league running 350 mile
You are correct , a new crop of athletes are changing the game , "world class" has gone up a click or two.
Another great quote from his coach:
“Seven weeks ago, I thought his career at OSU was over. He found his way out of the woods and got back into it and got training again and he’s healthy.
“He made the finals at the national championships, and seven weeks ago he wasn’t running. I’m really proud of him.”
1st, Andrew Bayer, 3:43.82
2nd, Miles Batty, 3:43.83
3rd, Ryan Hill, 3:44.24
4th, Michael Hammond, 3:44.47
5th, Rob Finnerty, 3:44.53
....
10th, German Fernandez, 3:46.62
Great post final interview on Flotrack:
He's on to the next stage of career.
German is back baby!
What an awesome interview. This makes me so happy for German. I'm glad to see he's getting upbeat again and moving on to a professional environment with his running.
J.R. wrote:
What an awesome interview. This makes me so happy for German. I'm glad to see he's getting upbeat again and moving on to a professional environment with his running.
Missed the race today, but I'm glad he is running again. I have been following his career since he was a freshman in HS.
I'm glad he did not hang them up.
He has risen from injury before and ran fantastic. Could this be one of those times when he had been completely ignored and he once again performs beyond expectation.
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