pear wrote:
Does it really matter?
Does it really matter to make a big fuss about a drug-loaded Kenyan clown and an American miler, who runs times like in 1980?
pear wrote:
Does it really matter?
Does it really matter to make a big fuss about a drug-loaded Kenyan clown and an American miler, who runs times like in 1980?
Claudio B, the big Italian doc wrote:
Does it really matter to make a big fuss about a drug-loaded Kenyan clown and an American miler, who runs times like in 1980?
when they finish 1st and 2nd in the world championships it does.
hmmnot wrote:
longjack wrote:centro right now is type cast rightly as a championship runner. however, what is missing is the fact that this guy can run 330 also right now. and he can get the american record in the not so distant future.
centro had been fighting injuries on and off and if he gets a 2 year injury free training bloc going you'll see a lot of wins, not just popping up at the champs.
alsal will have the strength and speed figured out, and he's liable to have figured out better how not to over cook guys.
still the injury bug gets them all. you have to be lucky in that department.
after all the best athlete from the oregon group was wheating, but the through the luck of the draw it's centro on the podium... and it can all change in a season.
there is a lot of chaos involved.
disagree. He is rightly cast as a championship runner because he does incredibly well in championships given that he is not nearly one of the fastest middle distance runners in the world. And no he's not gonna be running 3:30 anytime soon, and most likely never. His PR is 3:31.96. So he's a 3:31-3:32 runner when he's been healthy and in peak form, and if he's had any slight injury problems he's a 3:33-3:36 guy. Sure if he can avoid any minor injuries like he might become a consistent 3:32 guy who can run 3:31 in a good rabbited race. You might see one 3:30 out of him in a couple years as his career PR. More likely you'll see a few more 3:31's and a bunch more 3:32-3:34's and a continuing great series of championship races out of him.
It's kind of funny that we finally have someone who can win medals and will probably be winning future medals except he's not at all a world beater. A little disappointing to me, I always figured you needed to be one of the top guys to win medals, it almost feels like a cheat for a consistent mid-3:30s guy to have won a bronze and silver in two WC's and 4th in the OG. But hey maybe I'll be wrong and he'll have a break out year and start running legit fast international times at some point.
This post assumes he has reached is peak. There is no reason to assume this, most milers peak in the late 20s, not early to mid 20s. The exceptions are usually flash in the pan kenyans that are elite at age 19. there is no reason Centro won't be a sub 3:30 guy if things go smoothly.
You know, we deserve this guy...Okay, appropriating as we can, in actuality, Kiprop is black and white and red, white and blue all over. As is Bolt. So is the entire sport. It's these rainbow fingernails and public sex propaganda campaigns and post race track kisses that seem alien.
lpd wrote:
Gallagher,don't you know the rules ? It goes something like this..
If he is winning something and he is not obviously black,he is white.
If he were to be crossing the border or arrested for something,then he
is not white.Gemili and Centrowitz run fast,so they are white.
Zimmerman on the other hand is not a good athlete,so he is not
white.When the athletic pickings are slim,you have to appropriate
anyway you can.
pear wrote:
Does it really matter?
Sure it does. People are claiming him as the great white hope but he is brown.
Did you really need that explained to you?
Real News wrote:
pear wrote:Does it really matter?
People are claiming him as the great white hope but he is brown.
No they're not.
Real News wrote:
pear wrote:Does it really matter?
Sure it does. People are claiming him as the great white hope but he is brown.
Did you really need that explained to you?
when were people claiming that?
they are? wrote:
Real News wrote:Sure it does. People are claiming him as the great white hope but he is brown.
Did you really need that explained to you?
when were people claiming that?
Did you read the name of the OP? The "true white hope".
My God you people are dense
Centrowitz mother is black.
Ginger Snap wrote:
they are? wrote:when were people claiming that?
Did you read the name of the OP? The "true white hope".
My God you people are dense
I don't give a flying fvck about his so-called race. If folks like you do that is your problem.
Just for the record.
His mother comes from the running hotbed of Guyana.
Well, what about his father then? Did he ever run anything?
ggilder wrote:
Well, what about his father then? Did he ever run anything?
I really hope you're joking. If not, you need to go back to Dyestat.
A good, well reasoned post in my view, with the single exception of the phrase "luck of the draw."
I seem to recall hearing years ago that Centro Sr.'s mother was an Irish immigrant. The way young centro has been competing, we'll take him as an Irish-American...
ColoMaster wrote:
Just for the record.
His mother comes from the running hotbed of Guyana.
Same genetic makeup as Trinidad or Grenada, just no real track culture.
Dismiss at your own risk.
Stupid.
Pointing out the Obvious wrote:
Ginger Snap wrote:Did you read the name of the OP? The "true white hope".
My God you people are dense
I don't give a flying fvck about his so-called race. If folks like you do that is your problem.
The OP presented Centro as a white hope and he's brown. Nobody cares that you fail to grasp this.
He is not white or brown. Nobody cares that you fail to grasp this.
kartelite wrote:
ggilder wrote:Well, what about his father then? Did he ever run anything?
I really hope you're joking. If not, you need to go back to Dyestat.
Well, if Matt Sr. didn't run (perhaps he was a Duck), at least Matt Jr.'s Guyanan granddad was named Bannister. Maybe Matt Jr. got his running chops from Bannister.
Ginger Snap wrote:
Pointing out the Obvious wrote:I don't give a flying fvck about his so-called race. If folks like you do that is your problem.
The OP presented Centro as a white hope and he's brown. Nobody cares that you fail to grasp this.
The fact that you concern yourself with someone's so-called race identifies you as a simpleton. So it is really not surprising that you fail to grasp anything of significance.
Still, I care about you. I really, really care about you. And in my benevolence I am attempting to educate you and help you rise above your primitive roots.
Now tell me, how do your feelings feel? And please, be honest.
wr potential wrote:
He is not white or brown. Nobody cares that you fail to grasp this.
For the last effin time.
The OP id'ed Centro as the great white hope.
Centro is brown, not white.
End of discussion