So...is ABDI dirty too?

Raises the question...

How about this scenario ...

Bob is a florist. Bob claims to be straight. Most of Bob's friends are florists who happen to be gay, they hang out in gay bars together ...

What do you think the chances are that Bob is gay?

Abdi is always hanging out at the Bada Bing, he even comes to see me in my office in the back.

Everybody is doping. No one has been clean since the 1980s.

The vast majority are just using drugs that aren't being tested for. The ones who are getting busted are too stupid to figure it out.

Is there a log of these athletes getting tested regularly? I'd like to know how many times our elite athletes are getting tested.

I wonder if these testers would have any idea who Abdi or Lagat or Rupp are if asked who they've tested in the past 10 years.

Charles Nonhomogenous wrote:

Everybody is doping. No one has been clean since the 1980s.

The vast majority are just using drugs that aren't being tested for. The ones who are getting busted are too stupid to figure it out.

Well this just isn't true. They're all using the same stuff. Getting caught is more about being unlucky than being stupid.

Micro doses of EPO are undetectable after 4 hours.

Charles Nonhomogenous wrote:

Everybody is doping. No one has been clean since the 1980s.

The vast majority are just using drugs that aren't being tested for. The ones who are getting busted are too stupid to figure it out.

Lame

If you had ever spent any time training with Abdi, you know that he welcomes anyone to come run with him whenever they want to, so as others have said, they aren't real "training partners" in the traditional sense. You would also know that he HAMMERS...EVERY DAY. If I tried to train with him on an extended basis, I would have to take EPO just to survive his training runs. I'm not surprised that the guy is so fast (or hurt so often) after seeing him haul balls every day. I think he's clean, but I wouldn't rule out the chance that he's doping either.

Oh, and he drinks all the time.

Well this just isn't true. They're all using the same stuff. Getting caught is more about being unlucky than being stupid.

Micro doses of EPO are undetectable after 4 hours.[/quote]

If this is true why would they not dope everyday after about 9am since they always seem to test first thing in the morning. By lunchtime, you would be clean again.

Unrealistically Realistic wrote:

Is there a log of these athletes getting tested regularly? I'd like to know how many times our elite athletes are getting tested.

I wonder if these testers would have any idea who Abdi or Lagat or Rupp are if asked who they've tested in the past 10 years.

It's all public.

If you look Abdi up, you will see that he has been tested 31 times from 2000 through the end of 2011.

i notice not a single test for anyone in the american power boat assoc. last year. what a travesty!

I saw Abdi spending quite a bit of time with a white guy - who didn't look like a runner - at the Bolder Boulder pre-race festivities @ the Millenium Hotel. Could be a friend...but could also be his dealer?

And why was he just milling about there - a long way from Tucson if he wasn't racing?

rafa1 wrote:

If this is true why would they not dope everyday after about 9am since they always seem to test first thing in the morning. By lunchtime, you would be clean again.

Because the side effects?

Because you must take it "on and off" with specific cycles during the season?

Because WADA vampires ring your bell at the morning?

Irrefutable proof right there.

true story wrote:

I saw Abdi spending quite a bit of time with a white guy - who didn't look like a runner - at the Bolder Boulder pre-race festivities @ the Millenium Hotel. Could be a friend...but could also be his dealer?

And why was he just milling about there - a long way from Tucson if he wasn't racing?

true story wrote:

I saw Abdi spending quite a bit of time with a white guy - who didn't look like a runner - at the Bolder Boulder pre-race festivities @ the Millenium Hotel. Could be a friend...but could also be his dealer?

And why was he just milling about there - a long way from Tucson if he wasn't racing?

TMZ needs to be all over this.

f3wr4wr43 wrote:

Abdi's two Arizona-based training partners, Marty Fagan and Ezkyas Sisay, have BOTH been busted for EPO. He also raves about Lagat who had the positive "A" sample and negative "B" sample.

http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-sisay5312012http://olympictrials.runnersworld.com/2012/01/12/a-brief-chat-with-abdi-abdirahman/

Something is a little fishy here.

Joseph McCarthy would been very proud of you.

If the Brojos had a shred of integrity, this thread would have been deleted very quickly.

rafa1 wrote:

> Well this just isn't true. They're all using the same

> stuff. Getting caught is more about being unlucky than

> being stupid.

> Micro doses of EPO are undetectable after 4 hours.

If this is true why would they not dope everyday after about 9am since they always seem to test first thing in the morning.

Why 9 AM? There are no tests between 10pm and 6 AM. It's well known, and probably not unintentional, making it "safe" to microdose at night. Everyone does it, everyone's a winner.

george oscar bluth wrote:

You would also know that he HAMMERS...EVERY DAY. If I tried to train with him on an extended basis, I would have to take EPO just to survive his training runs. I'm not surprised that the guy is so fast (or hurt so often) after seeing him haul balls every day.

You do realize that hammering every day is something that EPO allows you to do?

kjjrxr wrote:

You do realize that hammering every day is something that EPO allows you to do?

Yeah, I figured that would come up, and it is a valid point. Who am I to know if it's due to EPO or just winning the genetic lottery? All I know is that he's trained that way for as long as I've known him, and I doubt that he's been taking EPO for nearly 20 years.