WEBB 3:37.26

Maybe restrictions were put on Webb to avoid injury. They are probably taking it slow until the Prefontaine meet

52.43 wrote:

Yeah, what was the reason for the 1:51? Would like to see a "line of fit" from 1:51 over 3:37 to longer distances! But small hope for Webb seems coming. Beat PvWesthuizen, Miles Batty and Will Leer.

macmillian calculator converts 337 to a 145 800

so the coach is realy holding him back

he needs a strong hand

bodes well

Webb can be ready by the Trials. This will be cutting things very close though. I can't count him out because of his status as American Record holder in the mile, and he has a lot of talent. His 3:37 is proof of fitness. If he sharpens with speed and anaerobic endurance he will contend at the Trials. If the field waits around like usual anything goes. On the other hand Webb has been around for 10 years and there are limits to running at the highest level. I just feel with Webb one has to give a measure of respect and let things run their course. I wish him the best. Very few people have accomplished what he has done on the track.

I went with Webb to his parents for dinner the other night. Toward the end of the meal his mother asked if he was finished. he said "Yes mother, I'm Done!"

There you have it, from the man himself.

I was at the meet and when I walked by him he was saying he didn't feel focused.

curioual wrote:

I went with Webb to his parents for dinner the other night. Toward the end of the meal his mother asked if he was finished. he said "Yes mother, I'm Done!"

There you have it, from the man himself.

Cakes are done, people are finished

Even if Webb finishes top 3 at the trials w/o the "A" he won't go whatsoever. US has more than 2 athletes in the 1500m with the "A", they'll take 3 "A" guys rather than 2 "A" guys and a "B" guy. For Webb, he's got to finish top 3 along with hitting the "A" standard.

Honestly though I don't see Webb making the team even if he hits the "A" standard. Not being a hater, but seeing how deep the 1500m event will be at the trials, Webb is going to have to hope for one hell of a tactical race because I seriously doubt he would finish in the top 3 in an all-out race.

HYPE MAN it a con wrote:

One thing we can all agree on is that it is an exciting time for US 1500 meter running. The days of Jason Lunn winning the nationals in 3:45 are long over.

Yep, these days Matt Centrowitz Jr wins it in 3:47 :)

is the promise ring dead? wrote:

Even if Webb finishes top 3 at the trials w/o the "A" he won't go whatsoever.

I'm sure he'll go somewhat.

up to speed wrote:

HYPE MAN it a con wrote:

...The days of Jason Lunn winning the nationals in 3:45 are long over.

...these days Matt Centrowitz Jr wins it in 3:47

The 1500 (and likely 5000 and 10000) final is going to be interesting since there is likely to be at least one guy who doesn't have the Olympic A standard in the race and needs to gamble on a sub-3:35 and at the same time try for a top 3. Should make for fast finals relative to previous US OT and WC trial races.

That's a good point. Brilliant plan from USATF to eliminate promising championship-style racers from the Olympics.

Aotkmty wrote:

up to speed wrote:

...these days Matt Centrowitz Jr wins it in 3:47

The 1500 (and likely 5000 and 10000) final is going to be interesting since there is likely to be at least one guy who doesn't have the Olympic A standard in the race and needs to gamble on a sub-3:35 and at the same time try for a top 3. Should make for fast finals relative to previous US OT and WC trial races.

I don't think this is true at all. The only way someone with the Olympic B standard could finish in the top 3 and NOT go to the games is if they were beat by someone else who ALSO only had the B. Since most of the main contenders already have the A, this is extremely unlikely. So if Webb doesn't hit 3:35, but manages to get 3rd, who exactly is going to finish 1st or 2nd who also does not have the A standard?

To clarify:

All 3 must have the A standard.

The Olympics do not take 2 A's and a B like last year's WC's.

http://www.iaaf.org/mm/Document/Statistics/Standards/05/90/83/20110119112034_httppostedfile_QualificationSystem-Athletics-IAAF-21112010_23249.pdf

NOCs may enter up to three athletes for each event on the athletics program, provided they have achieved the A standard. In addition they can enter one reserve athlete for the same event provided he/she has also achieved the A standard.

NOCs may enter one athlete for each event on the athletics program if he/she has achieved at least the B standard. In addition they can enter one reserve athlete for the same event provided he/she has also achieved at least the B standard.

Is there a grace period to chase time this year? There is like a month until the games start and I have a hard time beleiving anyone that qualifies couldn't get the times in one of those races.

Vigs has always trained for the important meets, which is what you see with Webb. Webb is getting there, but he is running out of time. Pre is probably where Webb will look to put up a big mark, but even if that is 3:35, that puts him outside of the A standard and perhaps 3 seconds behind his U.S. competitors. If Andrews, Wheating, Torrence and Lomong opt out of the 1500, Webb will had a good shot at a spot.

Even if Webb does not make the USOT, I still think Webb will put up some good marks this year.

is the promise ring dead? wrote:

Honestly though I don't see Webb making the team even if he hits the "A" standard. Not being a hater, but seeing how deep the 1500m event will be at the trials, Webb is going to have to hope for one hell of a tactical race because I seriously doubt he would finish in the top 3 in an all-out race.

Really? I think that's probably Webb's best shot. He's always been a strength based runner. Even when he ran that 3:30 and 3:46, he wasn't doing it off a blazing final 200. Sure, he had more speed then, but he always finished with a long drive to the finish. I mean how many people can go 3:37 off a 1:51 800? I know, I know, there are other factors that go into that, but it's still something to consider. Personally, I think his best shot is a race that gets out fast and burns the kicks out of everyone. Unless he's really been holding off on real speed work, that will be his only shot at making the team.

Can someone post update US times for the 1500 ? 5k and 10k wouldn't hurt either.

TrackCoach wrote:

If Andrews, Wheating, Torrence and Lomong opt out of the 1500, Webb will had a good shot at a spot.

So if you eliminate most of the talent and leave primarily those without the A standard, he has a good shot.

aDSa wrote:

Is there a grace period to chase time this year? There is like a month until the games start and I have a hard time beleiving anyone that qualifies couldn't get the times in one of those races.

No chasing the standards.