It looked like he jumped too far when he tried to get onto the top of the steeple and landed on his heel which caused him to loose balance on the push off.
It looked like he jumped too far when he tried to get onto the top of the steeple and landed on his heel which caused him to loose balance on the push off.
I see it as a positive for Jager. That was gutsy to fall flat on his face in the water, yet stayed focused, cleared the last hurdle and ran through to get the A standard. He'll obviously get better with practice on those jumps.
re-check wrote:
ouch=fail wrote:Takes a 63sec pace to hurdle the pit... speed up next time jager
He was running at least 63s pace, probably faster. He hit a 65 last lap including the fall.
It takes more like 60-61 pace, you need to speed up going into the water jump if you are going to try to hurdle it.
I saw Michigan's Ornelas do the same thing last year. Kind a funny, but sucks that it kills the PR.
Jager postrace interview should be up by this afternoon, but as someone else caught, he DID try to step the last water, was just going too fast and sailed past it before planting, thus "planting" in midair. he didn't try to hurdle it, just came in too hot. he'll learn i'm sure and prob looking at an 8:mid-teens performance from him come trials final.
dude~
That's happened to me before. Jager is lucky he DID faceplant--at least you don't need your face for running. I did the same thing and I crushed the fat pad of my heel and jammed up the bones in my foot pretty bad. The fat pad damage kept me from being able to walk for a week, and the bone/joint damage screwed me over for months.
Just shows that you need it ALL to be successful as an athlete. Talent isn't enough. Hard work and talent isn't even enough. YOu have to have smarts, good judgement, discernment. This was stupidity plain and simple. Kind of a showing off moment. Stupid tricks like this have lead to more than one olympic hopeful to either not make the team or not get a medal. HOpefully this was his dumb moment and he will learn from this.
ryan foreman wrote:
He'll obviously get better with practice on those jumps.
He's already the best at it. How is 'practice' going to help?
Shit happens. End of story.
malmo wrote:
ryan foreman wrote:He'll obviously get better with practice on those jumps.
He's already the best at it. How is 'practice' going to help?
Shit happens. End of story.
BS. It's not like he can NOT improve on passing hurdles. Even if minor improvements, he still can improve.
Hilarity ensues wrote:
Also I don't like his hair and he seems kinda like a hippy.
Kind of sounds like my nagging mother; or your mother-in-law.
ryan foreman wrote:
He'll obviously get better with practice on those jumps.
malmo wrote:
He's already the best at it. How is 'practice' going to help?
Shit happens. End of story.
The best of whom? Americans?
That is like the best French marathoner saying he is "already the best" - nonsense.
So stumbling to gain your balance after every water jump is perfect technique? That is what he did on at least two other jumps besides the one he fell on. You know stuff Malmo, but I think I'll ignore you and trust in Jerry Schumacher on this one. He apparently said he thinks Jager can reduce his time by 8 seconds just from improvement on his jumps.
malmo wrote:
ryan foreman wrote:He'll obviously get better with practice on those jumps.
He's already the best at it. How is 'practice' going to help?
Shit happens. End of story.
hah, you sound like you're talking about that female snowboarder in the winter olympics a couple years back...not someone who tripped accidentally
ryan foreman wrote:
So stumbling to gain your balance after every water jump is perfect technique? That is what he did on at least two other jumps besides the one he fell on.
No. But your response is a perfect red herring. Congrats.
There was a US steepler in the 80's that hurdled every water jump....can't remember his name...he was decent....around 8:30 or so....Malmo may remember.
2 things:
1) It does not take 61, 63, 65 or whatever pace to hurdle the water jump. There are women that hurdle the water jump running between 75-80sec pace.
2) He may have run a 63sec last lap with the fall, but that does not mean he was running 58 or even 63 pace. The Occidental pit is very recessed, making the laps very short. Most steeples start 10-20 meters back from the 3000m start line. The Occidental steeple start is almost all the way back at the 1500m start. A 63 second lap is more like a 66 second quarter.
3) He didn't try to hurdle the water jump.
The do the backstretch section 8 times. Normally, they are back ~40-50m from the 3000m line; if they are almost back to the 1500m line, they are doing at most 40 more meters over those 8 backstretch sections, or about 5 meters/lap. You are going pretty slow if it is 3 more seconds shorter per lap (one is probably stretching it).
honestly, in addition to falling on the last water jump, he did stumble on the water jump landing and almost fall on at least one other occasion in that race. so, it's obviously wrong to say that he does not need to improve his jumping or landing technique, particularly when he is pushing at the end of a race. he'll do it. this was his second race and he has an AR in his near future.
He did a good job getting over the last hurdle too, his legs looked wobbly and I thought he might go down again. In the FT interview he seems like he has gained a lot more respect for the difficulty of the event and no longer considers making the Oly team a slam dunk.