Coe was reportedly able to run 47-48 all year. He may not have raced the 400 often, but he surely focused on it extensively.
Juantorena focused on the 400m, Coe did not (certainly not to the level that Juantorena did).
A good 800m runner, can run several hard races a year(compared to say a 5k runner).
The 800m is m often a highly contested event.
people can throw out ARBITRARY, numbers out all day long.
But, the fact is that 800m is goddamn hard race to run.
AND, the three BEST 800m runners ever are the only human beings, to go sub1:42. AND, only one of them ever came very close to breaking sub1:41.
soft my ass.
That's not what he said. He said if Coe had Juantorena's speed, or if Juantorena had Coe's endurance, the 800 m record would be significantly lower.
Just cause someone is a good coach DOESNT make them irrefutable.
if you hadn't noticed many good coaches disagree on a great number of things.
maybe im just naive.
i really dont care, but i dont buy the argument that Coe and Kipketer ARE NOT the two BEST 800m runners.
OR, that they didnt run damn near there potential in the 800m.
Humorously, you are unintentionally correct. Your sarcastic alter ego has disproved your attempted serious argument.
So you telling me that IF i take an Olympic 400m gold medalist's speed.
And, combine THAT, with an endurance of an Olympic 1500m gold medalist's endurance.
That i will have a world record holder at 800m!?!?!?!?!?!(note the ill-concealed sarcasm).
I dont know what the hell you think soft means, and i REALLY dont care, but i do know this.
You also misunderstand the term "soft."
Obviously, speaking in absolute terms, running 2 50.5 second 400's is by no standard "easy." It is a phenomenal record.
But using the various race calculators, and looking at the new level of speed that middle distance runners bring to their event, 1:41.11 seems better suited to fall than 7:20.67, or 3:26.00, or 26:20.31.
There are many people who are fast enough (anyone with 47 speed for 400 or better, about) and many people strong enough to hold a high percentage of 400 speed for 2 laps (El Guerrouj, Gebrselassie, Kipchoge, Bekele), but until the right mix comes, we won't see a new WR.
Id agree that 19.32 seems alomost impossible.
Dammit, isn't the 800m TOPS??? :)
Persoanally, I think MJ 19.32 is the toughest record in running, followed by Kipketer's 1:41.11, followed by Komen's 7:20.
Coe was special, and it took a very special guy 16 years later to finally nail that record. Now we are 8 years later still....
That MJ run was Beamonesque. I might never live to see it broken.
7:20 has been attacked by the greats, and still it stands proudly head and shoulders above the rest of the 3000m times. 9 years now?