2:50/km. Paces for:
25km @ 1:11:05
30km @ 1:25:20
The WRs at these distances are 1:11:50 (road) and 1:26:47 (track)
The last 2.195 km has to be run in 6:14, which is in and of itself unusual even today.
Not going to happen anytime soon.
2:50/km. Paces for:
25km @ 1:11:05
30km @ 1:25:20
The WRs at these distances are 1:11:50 (road) and 1:26:47 (track)
The last 2.195 km has to be run in 6:14, which is in and of itself unusual even today.
Not going to happen anytime soon.
I don't know the answer for certain, but I would guess that a half marathon is the longest this pace has been sustained so far.
In my opinion, we are as close to breaking 2 hours as we were to breaking 4 minutes(mile) when the 800 record was around 1:57.
21,285 meters.
Didn't Gerry Lindgren make it about 25-26 miles then he passed out? Sounds unbelievable at first, but considering how much mileage he did and that fact that he DID pass out... Maybe he did.
I mean, how many of the top marathoners push themselves hard enough to go unconscious and faint? NONE. Passing out is exactly what I would imagine woud happen after pushing yourself that hard. Maybe today's guys aren't pushing hard enough (obviously not or they would pass out).
Skip Bounds wrote:
In my opinion, we are as close to breaking 2 hours as we were to breaking 4 minutes(mile) when the 800 record was around 1:57.
sheeeeeeeet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/800_metres_world_record_progressiontadese has run ~7-8 seconds per mile under 2:00:00 pace for the half, so i bet he could slow it down and stretch it out to almost 30k. mcmillan calc points to around the same
58:23 21.1k --> 1:25:29 30k (2:00:15 pace)
Skip Bounds wrote:
In my opinion, we are as close to breaking 2 hours as we were to breaking 4 minutes(mile) when the 800 record was around 1:57.
i.e. 60-70 yrs at least.
Been there done that wrote:
Didn't Gerry Lindgren make it about 25-26 miles then he passed out? Sounds unbelievable at first, but considering how much mileage he did and that fact that he DID pass out... Maybe he did.
I mean, how many of the top marathoners push themselves hard enough to go unconscious and faint? NONE. Passing out is exactly what I would imagine woud happen after pushing yourself that hard. Maybe today's guys aren't pushing hard enough (obviously not or they would pass out).
Was this something witnessed by other people? Or a Gerry Lindgren story? Man, that guy is so weird. Can't believe anything he says.
26.1 miles by Gerry Lindgren, the man himself.
ohoh wrote:
Been there done that wrote:Didn't Gerry Lindgren make it about 25-26 miles then he passed out? Sounds unbelievable at first, but considering how much mileage he did and that fact that he DID pass out... Maybe he did.
I mean, how many of the top marathoners push themselves hard enough to go unconscious and faint? NONE. Passing out is exactly what I would imagine woud happen after pushing yourself that hard. Maybe today's guys aren't pushing hard enough (obviously not or they would pass out).
Was this something witnessed by other people? Or a Gerry Lindgren story? Man, that guy is so weird. Can't believe anything he says.
Exactly what is so unbelievable about that? Isn't passing out what you woul expect to happen to someone over exerting themselves?
Left Said Fred wrote:
21,285 meters.
Geb's one hour run record, and done on a track no less.
I think one of those 58:xx half marathoners could probably hold the necessary pace for maybe 14 or possibly 15 miles.
But good point. Shows that we're still 11 or 12 miles away from seeing a sub-2 marathon.
Been there done that wrote:
Didn't Gerry Lindgren make it about 25-26 miles then he passed out? Sounds unbelievable at first, but considering how much mileage he did and that fact that he DID pass out... Maybe he did.
I mean, how many of the top marathoners push themselves hard enough to go unconscious and faint? NONE. Passing out is exactly what I would imagine woud happen after pushing yourself that hard. Maybe today's guys aren't pushing hard enough (obviously not or they would pass out).
No, Gerry Lindgren did not make it 25-26 miles at 2:00 Marathon Pace. He's too slow to manage that.
Just to put it in perspective: Gerry Lindgren's 10k PR is over 2 hour pace. He did collapse in some marathons, I think, but they definitely weren't at sub-2 pace.
Azaleas wrote:
...Lindgren's 10k PR is over 2 hour pace...
Gerry Lindgren did not run 26 miles (or whatever he claims) in under 2 hours, but he did run his 6 mile WR in 27:11 (4:32 per mile pace). His 6 mile WR pace would give a 1:58:47 marathon. (Not that this makes it any more likely that he ran 26 miles in under 2 hours.)
Gerry ran 16:08 for 4 miles and beat all the 1964 US olympians in that race. That time is on par with a sub 2 hour marathon, look it up on mcmillan calculator
speaker of truth wrote:
Gerry ran 16:08 for 4 miles and beat all the 1964 US olympians in that race. That time is on par with a sub 2 hour marathon, look it up on mcmillan calculator
No he didn´t. That pace is about as fast as Kenny B:s 5000m WR. Anyone with a 3 digit IQ understands that it´s impossible.
there was nearly one in the film The Games
This will happen when modern training keeps evolving, lead by the new coach Yangseff Pachewko.
Currently he is unknown as a coach, and no one knows where he is.
This thread should be permanently tagged to the first page to diffuse the morons who think we are right around the corner from a sub 2.
speaker of truth wrote:
Gerry ran 16:08 for 4 miles and beat all the 1964 US olympians in that race. That time is on par with a sub 2 hour marathon, look it up on mcmillan calculator
Oh boy................