What is the healthiest diet you could possibly eat? (as a general consensus)

redux wrote:

If the furnace is hot enough...

Only fools follow the diet advice of a mediocre, cult teen-fiction writer.

let's not forget almonds and blueberries

I forgot to add eggs, they are great to eat.

A balanced one.

Bananas. Lots and lots of bananas.

food is good, but so is pie wrote:

If a bunch of scientists and nutritionists etc. were to write up a consensus of what the healthiest daily diet would be, what would it consist of?

Azaleas wrote:

The best diet is generally considered to be the Mediterranean diet. Lots of fish, nuts, olive oil, whole grains, some dairy. Little red meat.

That's a complete myth. Have you ever been to a Mediterranean country? Red meat is an integral part of their diet.

Cordain wrote:

[quote]Azaleas wrote:

Why dairy? This is only a "food group" because of lobbying. Humans ate no dairy for most of our evolutionary history (or wheat) and we don't do well with gluten and casein.

That's true. Humans have been around for well over 50,000 years, but milk only became a staple of our diet around 9,000 BC in Asia and 3500–3000 BC in the Americas.

Real Response #2 wrote:

redux wrote:

If the furnace is hot enough...

Only fools follow the diet advice of a mediocre, cult teen-fiction writer.

He mentions yogurt and walnuts too...

This thread provides ample proof as to why there are so many diet books on the market. There is NO consensus, and people will believe just about anything.

Azaleas wrote:

The best diet is generally considered to be the Mediterranean diet. Lots of fish, nuts, olive oil, whole grains, some dairy. Little red meat.

Randy Oldman wrote:

That's a complete myth. Have you ever been to a Mediterranean country? Red meat is an integral part of their diet.

"The Mediterranean Diet" as described in research done by "a bunch of scientists and nutritionists etc" does in fact contain red meat in "low amounts". People in Mediterranean countries may or may not adhere to "The Mediterranean Diet".

Cliff Clavin wrote:

This thread provides ample proof as to why there are so many diet books on the market. There is NO consensus, and people will believe just about anything.

If the nutritionists and scientists were able to check their own agendas and disregard food environments and human behavior, the consensus would be raw vegan with the exception of some fish and cooked grains. Very very few people have the ability, desire and conviction to execute it, though, which is why people like Esselstyn, McDougal, Ornish, etc. have designed in cheats and compromises to the ideal when marketing their diets.

HC wrote:

If the nutritionists and scientists were able to check their own agendas and disregard food environments and human behavior, the consensus would be raw vegan with the exception of some fish and cooked grains.

cooked foods often contain more, and more bioavailable, anti-oxidants than raw foods. Furthermore, ti makes those foods more palatable and easy to digest, and easier to consume a larger amount of (and I am talking about healthy, nutrient dense, low calorie foods, i.e., eating more is not a bad thing in this case.) There is nothing wrong with cooking foods, and it kills harmful bacteria. A mix of raw and cooked foods is likely best.

If you are eating fish and cooked grains then you are not eating raw vegan, right?? It's like the paleo guys who say: eat paleo, well except some whole wheat grains are okay right after running to refuel, and a little coffee or tea, and a smoothie or bar with some whey in it, and maybe a little red wine, and, and, and..... And that explains why some dieters (especially paleo types) hold on SO DEARLY to their "NO GRAINS AND DAIRY!!! SAT FAT GOOD!!!!" mantra. Because it the one thing they can really hold onto to distinguish their diet from others. Even if the evidence is not strong to support that viewpoint (that grains and dairy are the devil, and that sat fat is great for you), they have to hang onto it or their diet is pretty much just like any other diet (eat fish, eat fruits and veggies, eat root veggies, etc...)

Why people need to have a diet to BELONG TO and IDENTIFY WITH and be on the TEAM OF I will never know. Combining aspects of different diets from different healthy populations and research over the years( Med Diet, DASH diet, Japanese diet [especially Okinawan diet], Portfolio diet, etc, etc) [and yes, each of those overlap the others] is what a smart person would. One diet does not trump all others.

The healthiest diet is low fat, less than 10% of calories from fat, no transfat, no caffeine (no tea), no sugar, no processed flour or grains, no gmo soybeans, corn, no wheat, NO SALT, no processed dairy.

Leafy greens, fruit (watermelon - yummie!), green veggies (broccoli, cabbage, zucchini), peppers (jalapeno, serrano), white rice. Chicken breasts or rabbit are a good low fat source of meat for non vegetarians.

You need to read the book. Saturated fat is NOT desired in paleo diets. But, also, not all saturated fat is the same.

The main things in the paleo diet are:]

1)Non-athletes don't need that many carbs

2)Sugar is a bigger culprit in obesity that fat

3)Many people have low grade/subclinical intolerance to gluten and casein (and lactose) that mimics seasonal allergy. Other people don't. But you don't need whole grains - they are not a "food group" and neither is dairy - you can be quite healthy never eating either.

4)Endurance athletes don't needs as many carbs as high-carb prophets say (your body can only store about 2200 calories of carbs and your main fuel source is fat). You only need to eat enough carbs to keep your glycogen topped off. Glycogen can't be moved from muscle to muscle and it isn't your primary fuel source for normal running

The Paleo diet is neither the consensus nor supported by general scientists (it's a bad sign when you have to assume that the scientists are bought by "big dairy" and "big agribusiness") It isn't even what actual paleo people ate...

food is good, but so is pie wrote:

If a bunch of scientists and nutritionists etc. were to write up a consensus of what the healthiest daily diet would be, what would it consist of?

Do not eat.

Cordain wrote:Endurance athletes don't needs as many carbs as high-carb prophets say (your body can only store about 2200 calories of carbs and your main fuel source is fat). You only need to eat enough carbs to keep your glycogen topped off. Glycogen can't be moved from muscle to muscle and it isn't your primary fuel source for normal running

I don't know what type of "endurance exercise" you're interested in, but if it's running at any quicker than a waddle, you're 100% wrong. Studies have found that to run a marathon at 2:45 pace, you burn roughly 97% carbohydrate. Even if you just jog at 3:45 pace, you still use 68% carbohydrate. And of course, if you go at a faster pace, the percentage of carbohydrate used as fuel rises -- i.e. if you run a 5K or 10K, it's pure carbohydrate.

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[quote]J.R. wrote:

The healthiest diet is low fat, less than 10% of calories from fat, no transfat, no caffeine (no tea), no sugar, no processed flour or grains, no gmo soybeans, corn, no wheat, NO SALT, no processed dairy.

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See, this is what I mean about NO consensus. This moron actually believes that humans don't need to consume salt. Is this some kind of joke or something?

What you can either hunt or gather. If not that then pills, suppliments and energy bars.