I need to beat my cousin. He's a hobby jogger but thinks he's the stuff because he ran a 21:38 5k. Why, I don't know.
I've watched a lot of running and I've ran before but only as cardio when I wrestled DII. I'm in decent shape but I've never ran a race. He will be racing a local trail 5k in October that he got his PR on last year and I want to enter it and crush his hopes and dreams. Is it possible to get in sub 20 shape in that time and if so what will it take?
by Oct?
hell yeah.
i had never run more than one mile (and that only once for a freshman pe class) in my entire life and I got off the couch and a month and a half later off of 18 mpw I ran 19:57 on my own.
Not that tough if you're an athlete. Could be impossible if you're fat and lazy and have never pushed yourself in training/practice.
oh, and that was at 30 years old.
What are your height and weight? Do you have a running build? Its hard to tell since some people have natural aptitude for running and others don't. You could be a 15:30 5K talent guy or maybe a 25 minute guy; you just have to train properly and see what God-given talent you have. You have seven months to train so I bet you can beat 21:30. One of my college friends was a runner and wrestler in HS and he's a ~2:04 800 runner and 16:40s 5K runner with not too much training. (30-40MPW)Is your cousin seriously that arrogant with a 21:38 5K? That's girl HS varsity type of times. Its a pace that is slower than my easy pace and I'm probably a below average letsrun poster. I can almost lap your cousin in a mile (if his 5K converts to the same level of mile performance) and I suck for letsrun standards. Sad. I kind of want to hear about you destroying him in a race with very limited training! Good luck!
ineedtobeatmycousin wrote:
I need to beat my cousin. He's a hobby jogger but thinks he's the stuff because he ran a 21:38 5k. Why, I don't know.
I've watched a lot of running and I've ran before but only as cardio when I wrestled DII. I'm in decent shape but I've never ran a race. He will be racing a local trail 5k in October that he got his PR on last year and I want to enter it and crush his hopes and dreams. Is it possible to get in sub 20 shape in that time and if so what will it take?
I've yet to push myself with running. I wrestled through hs and college but my last actual match was two years ago but I've kept myself in good condition over my layoff. I'm positive I'll surpass him eventually as he's never played a sport and it has taken him three years to get his sub 22 but I want to surprise him in this race as it's all he ever brags about.
I don't really know where to begin but I pick up the running news here and decided to see who'd chime in. I looked at books at my local bookstores but they're all geared toward losing weight which isn't really an issue for me.
I'm 5' 10" 160lbs.
The reason he's that arrogant is because he got first place out of a field of 20 something odd hobby joggers. His girlfriend inflates his ego because she's chubby and could never fathom a 40 minute 5k.
Hmm, you're pretty heavy for a (potential) runner. I'm the same height as you but weigh in the low 140s. If you dropped 15-20 pounds it would be a lot easier. Or maybe you have a heavier body type as a wrestler. The heaviest I could see you running is 150 when you start running.Good luck with your smart, gradual training and beat your cousin! Gosh, I would LOVE to see a token D1 runner race him in a mile, 2 mile, or 5K on the track and lap him several times. (depending on the distance and track length, of course) I would have thought that somebody that has been running for three years would know where they stand relative to other runners. 25 minutes: relatively in shape, probably not obese male21 minutes: probably in good shape and some running-specific training but little talent17 minutes: good HS runner15 minutes: D1 runner13 minutes: elite, professional runner
ineedtobeatmycousin wrote:
I'm 5' 10" 160lbs.
The reason he's that arrogant is because he got first place out of a field of 20 something odd hobby joggers. His girlfriend inflates his ego because she's chubby and could never fathom a 40 minute 5k.
Guys...This is a man that claims that eating a McDonald's grilled chicken meal is healthy. He hasn't really progressed in his entire time spent running because he bounces from being a sandal wearing ultra runner to a marathoner. He literally has a 26.2 sticker and various other stickers of outdoor brands like Arc'teryx, La Sportiva, etc. He's never even ran a marathon! I can't help but rant because I honestly have been biting my tongue my entire life at this hack.
I can and will easily make it to 145-150 in 4-6 weeks time. I've got no problem cutting weight and I've been as low as 143 in the past year.
chinocochino wrote:
you just have to train properly and see what God-given talent you have.
true dat. if you're lucky, Zeus gave you a super high VO2max, Shiva gave you fierce battle rage and Thor gave you a devastating knock out kick.
chinocochino wrote:
Hmm, you're pretty heavy for a (potential) runner.
No he isn't. I was 5'11 170 when I started and I'm 165 now.
It's a 20 min 5k, not a 14 min.
Seriously, you anorexic mofos.
ineedtobeatmycousin wrote:
I can and will easily make it to 145-150 in 4-6 weeks time. I've got no problem cutting weight and I've been as low as 143 in the past year.
you have no reason to. it doesn't matter. You have months and months to run. Just do that.
inspirator wrote:
chinocochino wrote:Hmm, you're pretty heavy for a (potential) runner.
No he isn't. I was 5'11 170 when I started and I'm 165 now.
It's a 20 min 5k, not a 14 min.
Seriously, you anorexic mofos.
Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. Would the OP be faster if he dropped a few pounds? Most likely. Is that necessary for him to run sub-20? Hell no.
Just start running consistently and you should get there fairly easily by October. Good luck.
The point of the thread is to get training advice. I honestly have no idea where to begin. I live walking distance from the college track and also several trails including the area where the 5k will take place. Do I just get out there and pace myself and see what I have? Should I just not worry about anything too technical? I've seen the Daniels book and very briefly flipped through it and I don't have a clue what any of the stuff in the book means so I deemed it too advanced for my goal.
Assuming you are not a troll, you do not need anything technical or advanced right now - the race is in October isn't it? Do not worry about your current pace. However you need to begin running regularly. How many hours/miles/km of running do you do each week?
If the answer is zero, then you need to begin, but gradually - one sure fire way to fail in your endeavour, is to get injured from running too much/too fast/too soon.
I don't really run at all to be honest. The most I've run at any given time is 40-60 minutes of running/walking but I've never calculated anything beyond my time spent doing it. I don't know my distance nor my pace.
EZ
ex collegiate wrestler here as well. Long time sedantary (total shoulder reconstruction. ouch)
Been running 2 months and I'm already faster than your cousin. Not even training for speed. And I'm still fat.
Go to your local track, jog a couple laps to warm up, run four laps at a solid pace with out looking at watch each lap, walk / jog a couple of laps as cool down, post your result here and we'll get you beating that punk, chubby girlfriend having cousin of yours.
I'm 43 and weigh 150 lbs. I ran in high school but wasn't dedicated and wasn't any good, then dabbled a bit off and on since then. Last spring I started running regularly: about 30miles per week - not really structured, just three or four days of 10k runs and one longer run on the weekend. I suspect if the OP did nothing more than this fitness routine, he'd be running 20min for 5k by the end of his first month, no problem.
BTW, I don't mean he can start today and be at 20min in a month. He may have to start more slowly and build up to where he can handle 10k at a time and 16k for a longer weekend run. But once he's there, and doing his 10k runs at less than 8min/mile and maybe once or twice a week try to pick it up over the last mile or two, he'll be ready for a 20min 5k.