Can Kszczot threaten 1:41.01?

This is correct.

Lewandowski 1:45 out of the gate- Poles on the march....

Are you related to Ventolin by any chance? You seem to use the same abusive language!

I tend to agree with what you've put, but is there really the need to be so derogatory?

Interesting indeed, where do you this information from? Is there somewhere online one can about this?

Obviously not this year but 1.42 can be in his range.

And yes definitelly Adam has more speed than endurance so rather Rudisha type.

I guess for Adam the key thing is to stay healthy and it'll be allright :)

However Marcin is more expirienced on big events as WCH or Olypics.

Next meet is soon 23rd Feb. in Stockholm Sweden where both are o start list.

http://88.131.109.176/folksam/xlgalan12/Start.php

I have this information, because I know very well Marcin and his coach and brother Tomasz, who is my friend. I know Adam and his coach also, and Pawel Czapiewski and his coach. I used to run 800m, I was 1.48 guy. I competed with this guys, speak with them, sometimes run (I run now mainly road races in Poland, but still in training)

Marcin's result from Birmingham is very interesting, because he didn't run much specific training. It is pure aerobic workload plus general core plus some relaxed repetitios like 200's. He didn't plan to run indoors, wanted just to check his overall shape. Both of them didn't plan to run indoor worlds, but maybe they will change that now.

I know too, that Pawel Czapiewski, another 1:43 guy, will be trying to qualify for the Olympics. He is healthy (and is 34 years old) and has nothing to lose. He lost some years because of injury and in the last 2 years didn't compete much. But who knows, maybe?

Red Arrow wrote:

Are you related to Ventolin by any chance? You seem to use the same abusive language!

I tend to agree with what you've put, but is there really the need to be so derogatory?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: do the handle say "nicest" f#cking letsruner?

And I take it as a compliment to be mentioned in the same sentence as Ventolin, so thanks.

You're probably the only person willing to admit that, so I'll take it as a "YES" then.

The commentators for Birmingham said that Lewandowski would run World Indoors but not Adam K.

So, pretty much Adam does lower mileage (how many per week at different parts of the year?) and does a lot of short speed stuff with short rest, plus a lot of lifting and plyos? And Marcin does a lot of mileage in base compared to other 800 runners? His training is more strength oriented?

College Dude - you are right. I don't know hom much does Adam exactly do, but I am sure it is less then 120-130km/week in the peak mileage. On the other side, Marcin may be at about 150km/week in the peak mileage. The yearly average may be like 80-90km/week for Adam and 100-120 for Marcin.

But of course Marcin does some dynamic exercises and plyos too. And Adam does some tempo runs, like 6km progressing from 3:25 to 3:00/km. And both of them do a lot of general strenght and core. So, there are the differences but similarities too. It is natural, because Adam is more 400/800 and Marcin 800/1500.

The main difference is training from the lactate point of view. Marcin is the low lactate runner, in training and competitions. And Adam is the opposite - high lactate. My training was more high lactate, like Adam - so sometimes I used to run 5 days a week with lactate between 10 and 25 mmol. Plyos, tempo runs, repetitions - I could finish everything with high lactate. At 15mmol I was feeling easy ; ) And so is Adam - he can easily go in repetitions (say: 3x400m in 52-50s) for lactate like 25mmol.

Marcin is different - even in competition it is impossible for him to have more than 12-15mmol. His training is mostly under 4mmoles.

Polish coaches use lactate devices very often. So, sometimes not the type of training is important, but the lactate response. Pawel Czapiewski used to do some very hard power sessions like jumping, skipping and bounding uphill with lactate about 20mmol and more.

But Pawel Czapiewski always was a typical 800m type. Not the 400/800, not 800/1500, just 800m. Not so good speed and average endurance, but that mix produced the 1:43,22. So - every polish top 800m runner is a little bit different and the training is different too.

What is interesting - we have pretty good 400m runners. Few years ago our national 4x400m relay competed well against Americans. So it may be, that our training (and maybe genes?) are best for distances like 400/800m.