The Iraqi Navy - and Revolutionary Guard was over-hyped big time and was decimated within days. But the Iranian one is much more vaunted - and could possibly - perhaps not take out - but give the US Navy a prolonged fight. Your views?
The Iraqi Navy - and Revolutionary Guard was over-hyped big time and was decimated within days. But the Iranian one is much more vaunted - and could possibly - perhaps not take out - but give the US Navy a prolonged fight. Your views?
No worries. China, India, and Russia have guaranteed they'll buy Iran's oil.
A big, slow battleship is no match for fleet of 10000 fleet speedboats. Iranian Navy FTW!!!!!! And don't sleep on their stealth submarines.
US Navy:
324,466 active duty personnel
284 ships
3,700+ aircraft
11 Aircraft carriers
9 Amphibious assault ships
8 Amphibious transport docks
12 Dock landing ships
22 Cruisers
60 Destroyers
27 Frigates
75 Submarines
Iranian Navy:
28,000 personnel
65 aircraft
5 Frigates
3 Corvettes
26 Submarines
24 Fast Attack Craft
98 Large Patrol craft
+100 light missile boat
16 Hovercraft
Are you kidding? The USA Navy is the strongest fighting unit in the history of the world. I am not even American (from Canada) but I understand this to be true.
Iran has advanced technologies in a variety of applications. They have earlier proven their electronic countermeasures capability in supplying weapons that have scored hits against the Israeli navy. Russia and even China are willing to provide Iran with their advanced technologies as a proxy against the US.
Having said all this, I firmly expect the US Navy will crush any and all comers. However, I do think there is a possibility of some costly and surprising blows.
It doesn't really matter. Saudi Arabia and a coalition of Gulf States have said that they would jump up supply to match every drop lost by Iran if Iran blockades the strait. Loss of revenue is a much more effective deterrent than military force.
ELEVEN aircraft carriers? Holy...
Each one of those things could individually wage war on an entire country.
75 submarines! That seems like a joke.
If we wanted to we could squash Irans navy in milliseconds and they know it.
the u.s. definitely has the technological lead and can kill and fish in the water.
the land war is with iran with astounding successes in iraq, egypt, lebanon, syria, yemen, tunisia, libya, somalia, afghanistan, etc.
the u.s. should sit down at the table with the u.n. and negotiate a peace treaty directly with iran, fatah, hezbollah, israel, hamas.
1) close out the u.s. military occupations in afghanistan, palestine, isreal, qatar, etc. and withdrawl troops and cia contrators
2) return 9-10 million native semite and native caucasian refugees and hostages displaced in 1947, back to their ancient homeland in palestine.
3) terminate foreign aid, military aid, CIA operatives, CIA contractors, and ban military sales and intelligence cooperation, with any nation on earth who refuses to adhere to International Human Rights Laws, and refuses to allow U.N. monitors to verify compliance.
China and Russia will enter the war and capture Turkey and Iraq to take up the power vacuum then turn it over to Iran.
Who we need to be taking out are the Isralie agents posing as Americans who are in key positions throughout our government.
A report today is claiming that the Obama Administration is in secret talks with the Israeli government to figure out exactly what would constitute a good excuse for launching an attack on Iran.
The talks came after Defense Secretary Leon Panetta made comments suggesting that attacking Iran is something that the US and Israel “would regret,” apparently causing many top Israeli officials to react furiously and for Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren to file an official complaint with the Obama Administration.
Panetta followed up the speech with much more hawkish ones, apparently aimed at publicly placating Israel, but behind the scenes the administration has been seeking to clarify what exactly counts as a “red line” that would give the US and Israel the excuse to launch an attack.
Officially, of course, both sides would insist such an attack was about Iran’s nuclear program. But since both nations have been claiming Iran is within striking distance of acquiring nuclear weapons since the mid-1980s, the excuse isn’t going to really fly internationally, so both nations are hoping to settle on something which could be the “trigger” for the attack.
I don't think Iran could last long at all against our Navy attacking at full strength. But we haven't fought a war at full strength since WWII. The military has numerous restrictions to contain who and what we attack. We didn't learn our restricted warfare lessons in Vietnam and still haven't today.
I don't see the US winning another conflict despite having a superior military in all branches. The best we'll see are so called political victories with questionable long term consequences.
Ex: Iranian-US conflict. We'll send 2 of our aircraft carriers with support vessels. Our only offense will be to neutralize potential attacks on our vessels or landing personel. All other offensive attacks will be in response to attacks on our forces. Invasion force will only be large enough to secure bases to operate in Iran. We will not engage further so we don't draw Russia or China into the conflict. We will then try to work with the people of Iran to build a more democratic nation. The military will never completely subdue Iranian resistance not because they aren't capable, but politically aren't allowed.
For decades Iran has been the major supplier for Shiia Iraq, Afghanistan, Fatah, Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Brotherhood, etc. and the US has been hamstrung by China and Russia.
Obama can't attack Iran since WWIII will result as China and Russia will move in massive forces to protect Iran.
China and Russia aleady has thousands of official government advisors and hundreds of joint projects in Iran.
The GOP candidates can b.s. all they want but they know Obama will never attack Iran and start WWIII.
You must be joking.
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I don't think Iran could last long at all against our Navy attacking at full strength. But we haven't fought a war at full strength since WWII. The military has numerous restrictions to contain who and what we attack. We didn't learn our restricted warfare lessons in Vietnam and still haven't today.
I don't see the US winning another conflict despite having a superior military in all branches. The best we'll see are so called political victories with questionable long term consequences.
Ex: Iranian-US conflict. We'll send 2 of our aircraft carriers with support vessels. Our only offense will be to neutralize potential attacks on our vessels or landing personel. All other offensive attacks will be in response to attacks on our forces. Invasion force will only be large enough to secure bases to operate in Iran. We will not engage further so we don't draw Russia or China into the conflict. We will then try to work with the people of Iran to build a more democratic nation. The military will never completely subdue Iranian resistance not because they aren't capable, but politically aren't allowed.
This post is sad. Every word is absolutely true and that is what makes it sad.
If it came down to it, what good is a navy vs ICBMs?
Who needs to pit ship against ship?
ICBM's don't need to be nuclear to have an impact.
However in terms of protecting a oil tanker leaving the region... that's another story. Chances are though that US and Western influences would protect that cargo enough - re WWI and WWII history of cargo transport vs Germans & Nazi's.
Who gives a sh*t, bunch of chimps killing eachother and flinging poo. Humanity is ridiculous. Cmon comet!
War with Iran has been a dead issue since Carter since Russia & China have vowed to deploy troops and ships to protect Iran if attacked by the U.S.
There's no choice now but for Obama to settle the issues with Iran by holding bi-lateral peace negotiations.
It is a moot point. Iran will never take direct action against the West. Iran has always operated through covert means by funding and supporting proxies like Hezbollah and the Shia in Iran. China would never let Iran blockade oil shipments. A major spike in oil prices could lead to unrest in China.