SUB 5 at 50

This site wants to find out how many Close to: 5 minute milers there are out there. If you are 40+ Male or Female please click here to enter mile times, so we can find out.

http://www.olympiatrainingsystems.com/p/best-mile.html

Everyone Please enter your best mile in last year, enter B day and Gender.

http://www.olympiatrainingsystems.com/p/best-mile.html

359mile wrote:

Everyone Please enter your best mile in last year, enter B day and Gender.

http://www.olympiatrainingsystems.com/p/best-mile.html

So -- where are the results?

Pointless Thread for all wrote:

How many 50 year old 5 minute milers are there in the US population. My guess there is 100,000 Americans that can run that time at 50.

Are you serious?

It is about equal to a 3:52 mile; not much more than 10.

It's been six years since I've gone under, and ten since I ran sub-4:40. For the first time in half a decade I am running pain-free and getting after it. 60 miles this week, with solid workouts, and feeling the satisfaction of adaptive, injury-free fatigue telling me I am back on the right track.

You'd think this wouldn't be all that hard, but you have to survive. I ran 4:52 at age 46 and I wasn't even training that hard, but by 48 I was falling apart. By 50... forget it.

Any updates?

Now 56. I have been completely injury free for a full year now (after 10 nagging and six of no competition). Trained well last spring until work/life got in the way, but maintained all around fitness. Now logging 40 to 50 miles a week with lots of hills, drills, tempos and fartleks. Legs feel stronger each week, no tweaks and pretty springy when I ease up a few days. Fingers permacrossed for this summer. My main event is the 800, but sub five would make 40 years of that benchmark, so....

If I get eight hours sleep/night, eat well and stretch, I can still train pretty hard. The body is amazing at every age so far.

I was a sub 5 guy throughout my 40's, hit 50 and boom! I'm slow.

I don't know if I could do the training to break 5. I just lost my speed- really weird. I can run a 1/2 marathon at about the same pace I can run a 10k and not much slower than a 5K.

Try to do something fast and it's just not there.

Mile run rarely in the UK - stats show only one M50 managed it last year. But 70 UK M50s went under 5 mins for 1500m in 2012.

http://www.thepowerof10.info/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=1500&agegroup=V50&sex=M&year=2012

British Lady Vet wrote:

Mile run rarely in the UK - stats show only one M50 managed it last year. But 70 UK M50s went under 5 mins for 1500m in 2012.

http://www.thepowerof10.info/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=1500&agegroup=V50&sex=M&year=2012

And about 30 broke the 4:41. Maybe it's not soooo crazy hard. I'm 48 and there's no way in H-E-Double toothpicks I could break 5 for a mile - or 6, probably. Boy, I'd like to do it, but it would take losing 30 pounds and kind of a miracle. But, dream big...

5:00 at 50 age grades to 84.82% which makes it difficult but obtainable. Similar to running a 4:31 mile as an 18 year old. Another comparison would be to run 17:00 5k at 50.

Not Rono. You mean Jeff Mann in Reno. He's 50 soon, but has nasty achilles problems. Tim Keenan (16:54 / 1:17.33) and Fred Zalokar (2:35 at Chicago, pure marathoner) are the other 50+ guys in this club who can conceivably break 5:00 at 50. It seems sub-5:00 at 50 is somewhat near sub-4:00 as an open runner.

Kazanjian wrote:

Reno no go on sub 5

20 were sub 4:38, which is the 5:00 mile equivalent.

British Lady Vet wrote:

Mile run rarely in the UK - stats show only one M50 managed it last year. But 70 UK M50s went under 5 mins for 1500m in 2012.

http://www.thepowerof10.info/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=1500&agegroup=V50&sex=M&year=2012

Blowing.Rock Master wrote:

Actually, at even pace 4:39 is the 1500 equivalent.

Sub 4 for 1500m is a realistic target for the fastest guys over 50

TrackCoach wrote:

Pointless Thread for all wrote:

How many 50 year old 5 minute milers are there in the US population. My guess there is 100,000 Americans that can run that time at 50.

Are you serious?

It is about equal to a 3:52 mile; not much more than 10.

age graded for 50 is about 85% or like a young buck running a 4:24 mile good but not that good

runn wrote:

It's a rare achievment. I have it as a goal, was really struggling and found out I had some medical issues. I'm hoping for a simple cure and then, who knows?

Me too. Sub 5 for an over 50 guy is pretty good. In canada less than 10 I'm sure but a bunch of previously fast guys are turning 50 this year as guys one of the greatest birth years ever for runners, 1963, hit that milestone!

The age group rankings are all shot out because doped up outliers badly throw the numbers off. When you are old and you dope, the effect is more prounced than if a young buck dopes. So a clean 5:00 at 50 is probably like a clean 4:10-15.

Charlie wrote:

age graded for 50 is about 85% or like a young buck running a 4:24 mile good but not that good

What makes you think 50+ guys are doping? I think the sport is clean among the older masters. We just love the competition, nobody's looking to cheat.