This stinks! I live in Houston so I will attend the event but I feel sorry for those that do not have that luxury.
This stinks! I live in Houston so I will attend the event but I feel sorry for those that do not have that luxury.
Sooooooooooo glad I'm going to be there!!
once again, reaping what we sow. Houston getting the trials away from New York was stupid, stupid, stupid.
Its not that hard. Want your sport to be treated seriously? Put it in the freakin' media capital of the country. Oh, thats right, you did that in 2007 and garnered NATIONAL ATTENTION to the Trials Marathon. Boston for the womens' race? Same thing.
For less than a million dollars, USATF put the race in a small market surrounded by people who don't give a damn. And this is the result.
http://marinrunningco.blogspot.com/2011/12/again-nbc-dumps-on-runners-oly-trials.html
STUPID, STUPID, STUPID. This is what you get for accepting the Houston bid. You had a chance, USATF, to keep the ball rolling after the 2007 Trials and ONCE AGAIN, YOU BLEW IT.
J.R. wrote:
Don't be foolish.
NBC has stolen the free coverage, prevents others from providing the coverage, then you want to pay them to see?
If someone stole your car, would you pay them for a ride in it?
Come on, think. The solution is to get NBC the heck out of the mix, and to keep our right to have free coverage in our free internet, any time and all the time that we wish.
It is only the thieves at NBC and similar that are trying to prevent this from happening.
Are you the one videoing it or is NBC? How can NBC steal video from you that they create themselves.
Are you saying that everybody who wants to should be able to drive down the street in front of the marathon shooting video? I don't think that would work very well.
wejo wrote:
If you're a sponsor which would you rather have, a live stream not that many people watch or a 2 hour tv broadcast probably a million plus watch?
So somebody pay NBC to televise it! What the heck else is going on at 8:15am on a Sat. morning in mid-January?! BP should pay them and put their logo across everything and everyone along the race course.
I will be out their tailgaiting on the course...cant hurt to put a few back while watching hotties shalane and kara. Who knows maybe they will come to the after party at my house since its on the course
One of the other problems is that once a big media company has the rights to a broadcast they will never let them go. If they don't show the race live (on tv or an online stream) then we will NEVER see the entire race. Try finding video of the 2008 Olympic Marathon. You can't even buy it.
Is there going to be a local broadcast in Houston? Probably not because they want people out on the course to cheer.
So the ONLY people who will see the entire race are the guys in the media tent at the finish.
Is that good for the sport?
wejo, I would imagine that the USOC has at least as much to do with the decision as NBC.
rojo wrote:
3) I think actually having to wait until the show would create anticipation and be fun - if only the internet didn't EXIST. Few hard core people will be able to RESIST.
Did you know you were a poet and didnt know it? Okay, that was bad but I couldn't help myself. I do have to say, is this the first time you and Wejo disagreed?
In all seriousness, yeah too bad it won't be "live streamed". I don't know, personally I enjoy getting updates from here...you know read a page after page. Call me old fashion but this site doesn't do too bad on getting up to date results. Just my humble opinion and no I did not get paid or was endorsed by this site. Ha!? Besides, I will be one of the lucky ones who will be there "live" watching, texting on my iPhone , or taking pictures with my luxury Canon camera....just saying.
Anyone can video the race. NBC says they can't, because only they have the rights. To which I say BS, we all have the rights. Except them. I never gave the rights to them to video or produce anything.
See how that works. They say we don't have the rights and they do. I say BS, we have the rights, all of us, and they don't.
The Olympic Marathon Trials is an event put on by private enterprise. They can do what ever they want with the media coverage. Buy, sell, trade the T.V. rights. So you can take that cookie, and stick in yo yeah.
J.R. wrote:
Anyone can video the race. NBC says they can't, because only they have the rights. To which I say BS, we all have the rights. Except them. I never gave the rights to them to video or produce anything.
See how that works. They say we don't have the rights and they do. I say BS, we have the rights, all of us, and they don't.
[quote]Name wrote:
The Olympic Marathon Trials is an event put on by private enterprise. They can do what ever they want with the media coverage. Buy, sell, trade the T.V. rights. So you can take that cookie, and stick in yo yeah.[quote]
Wrong, I never gave any rights to them, and I never gave away any rights.
If they can do whatever they want, then we as well can do whatever we want.
They say we can't, but we did not agree to their rules.
We can make our own rules. I don't subscribe to their rules and neither should you, because their rules are imaginary and restrictive. I could just as well say, NBC you can't televise anything. See, and they should listen to me, cause I said so. See.
If the USATF wanted to run the entire race on an indoor track, with no cameras or spectators, they could. They don't need to ask You, And they never will!!
J.R. wrote:
[quote]Name wrote:
The Olympic Marathon Trials is an event put on by private enterprise. They can do what ever they want with the media coverage. Buy, sell, trade the T.V. rights. So you can take that cookie, and stick in yo yeah.[quote]
Wrong, I never gave any rights to them, and I never gave away any rights.
If they can do whatever they want, then we as well can do whatever we want.
They say we can't, but we did not agree to their rules.
We can make our own rules. I don't subscribe to their rules and neither should you, because their rules are imaginary and restrictive. I could just as well say, NBC you can't televise anything. See, and they should listen to me, cause I said so. See.
Put down the pipe before you post, man!
If you live on the course and want to shoot live video out your window have at it. If you actually want to shoot it from the lead car and broadcast it etc. USATF has to let you.
Maybe as an experiment you should show up on the trials course on the back of a buddy's bike ready to shoot video and send it over Skype and see how that all works out for you.
It's public event so you can film what you want and post it. If it was held in a stadium that would be different.
This is total BS
Post whatever you want. It's a free country.
Freedom of Sppech wrote:
It's public event so you can film what you want and post it. If it was held in a stadium that would be different.
Yeah, you can film the leaders for 15 seconds as they run past. But if you aren't NBC, how are you going to cover the whole marathon live without being on the course in a vehicle? And if you aren't NBC, how are you going to broadcast a live signal from the vehicle?
The Houston organizers need to take the reigns on this. The situation is ridiculous... Fix it or face the backlash of being a one-hit-never-been.
US Constitution wrote:
Post whatever you want. It's a free country.
They aren't streaming it live because last time the numbers were so low it was a waste of resources.
I can't blame them, they are putting their efforts into a longer tv broadcast that in the long run benefits everyone more than a live webcast. More viewers, etc.
If you are so nutty about the race, fly to Houston and watch it. Otherwise just be grateful you get what you get.