D1 guys drinking hard training hard

Wow D-1 Coach has some power issues I'd say. I wouldn't run for that guy for all the rice in China.

Cool.

My point was, BK and TW are relevant to the conversation because I assume they were D1 and drank. When they quit drinking they got even better. An argument for moderation or not drinking during serious training and competition.

Like I said, not a historian, just thinking.

this thread was definitely just made up to see if people did drink and what they thought of it. not to make synical attacks on people who drink. so f--- off

They also got better because they matured and aged.... ***missing the obvious***

I ran 4:01 for the indoor mile, 8:01 for 3k indoors, and 3:41 outdoors.

I enjoy drinking as much as anyone, and believe that, in moderation, drinking is alright.

However, it is very clear to me from experience, observation, and research that the guys who are very successful don't make a habit of drinking heavily.

True. Just thinking about that specific example and how limiting their alcohol was part of their success. An anecdote, but a good one.

Not common knowledge? wrote:

Anonymous Intent wrote:

I once ran a 2 minute PR in the half marathon two nights after getting pretty drunk. It was irrelevant to the race.

The fact that you PR'd by that much just makes your statement even more worthless. If your original time was actually bad enough that you were capable of setting a 2 minute PR then you were going to set a better time no matter what you did. If your PR was 67 minutes and you dropped a 65 I'd be impressed. No one really cares that you dropped your best time from 80 minutes to 78.

Yeah I ran an 80 minute half...in practice, ya punk azz b!tch. Keep staying in playing Clue on Friday nights, though, I'm sure it'll pay off for you.

"All of this is absolutely ridiculous. BS "the college experience." The college experience is immersing yourself in academics, becoming a part of a community, growing as a person. The unfortunate side effect is binge drinking. You are not typical college students, if you want to be than just quit and make drinking your sport. Drink in the off season, fine, whatever. In season is so stupid, and to all of you who say it has no effect on your running-BULLSHIT. It's really sad to me that the only way you can have fun is to get hammered and not even remember what happened. I have a teammate who can hardly socialize and interact with others unless she's drinks a ton. Sad. I look forward to seeing you all in 10 (heck 5) years as alcoholics who can't move on from "the good old days." Sounds like fun. What a freaking joke."

This.

I was at a UO party the other night and both Wheating and Centro JR. were there and they were plastered. Not saying I wasn't because, well, I was.

Responding to most of this & other previous "points" is below me. Most know exactly what I'm talking about. Especially when the aforementioned process is pretty standard operating procedure. Your comment about "making recruiting calls or training plans" in the middle of the day provided some entertainment though.

The feeling is mutual. Your name says it all bud.

Look, no one is arguing you can't run "well" while partying it up in college. Talent *can* over come many wild nights in season. But there is no refuting that you won't reach your true potential if this becomes common.

I've had fun riling you kids up. Hope you still have this much internet access back at mom & dad's after you graduate. I'm off to make some more recruiting calls & training plans.

What kind of DI head coach says this? You are not a DI coach. No chance. If you are, tell us who you are.

DI sit-at-the-computer-and-masturbate coach, perhaps.

Dude his "team" probably consistently places last at their conference meets and has been removed from xc nationals for years now...hardly a D1 coach...plus he's like by his own admission and his wife is getting a divorce...what a bum!

jamesw wrote:

What kind of DI head coach says this? You are not a DI coach. No chance. If you are, tell us who you are.

DI sit-at-the-computer-and-masturbate coach, perhaps.

You got me with that one dude. To the previous poster who suggested I'd be out of my mind to think he wouldn't go "out" for the night after a good workout or race - that's when your body has the most to gain from the workout...not during it. Stressing the body to that extent and then RECOVERING from that stress provides you the necessary adaptations you are working so hard for. Hell, I tell my team I'd rather they booze it up the night before a workout or earlier season race than the night following. Yes, I'm aware a lot of college kids will anyway. But I can promise you that if your one of those putting away the alcohol every weekend because it's "after the race" and in a respectable DI program, your coach either:

A) Has your file for safe keeping

B) Has written you off

C) Is watching the coaching openings thread very closely

I actually appreciate the AJ Acosta example here. He's the perfect example. I personally know he was on egg shells during his career at OU because of his habits. Sure the guy is very talented, ran some very good races & kicked some ass. But he never won the big title (footlocker will only take you so far) & has yet to come close to making the team. You think he's wondering why he doesn't have a contract now? Now, it's Friday night and I need to get back to my divorce papers.

Anonymous Intent wrote:

Yeah I ran an 80 minute half...in practice, ya punk azz b!tch. Keep staying in playing Clue on Friday nights, though, I'm sure it'll pay off for you.

Oh ok, sorry your best is 74 minutes or whatever, so much better. The point is your original time must have been pretty terrible and nowhere near your true potential level. You could have done any number of retarded things leading up to your "2 minute PR" (including drinking) and still PR'd by a lot because your first PR sucked so bad.