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XC Skiing teams have repeatedly been caught blood doping. I don't think any dominant team, including Norway, can be exempt from suspicion.

This sounds very much like the situation in dictated contries.

When Saddam wins the election with 99.9% of the votes, somehow intelligent people will understand it is too good to be true.

Of course the masses often does not.

If they test as much as you propose, there would (even if noone doped) be a number of false positives.

And please stop the lecture about the high moral norwegians.

People are people. If there is fame and money in the sport there will be cheaters.

Freelove wrote:

XC Skiing teams have repeatedly been caught blood doping. I don't think any dominant team, including Norway, can be exempt from suspicion.

By making that statement, no athlete in no sport can be exempt from suspicion.

Interesting to mention norwegian skiiers, cheating. This is the guys who refused to use altitude houses. Its now banned in Norway. Is it all a game? To make them look like anti-cheaters?

You are probably right, its a conspiracy by a whole nation.

Hahahahahha

Old Iraqi citizen wrote:

This sounds very much like the situation in dictated contries.

When Saddam wins the election with 99.9% of the votes, somehow intelligent people will understand it is too good to be true.

Of course the masses often does not.

If they test as much as you propose, there would (even if noone doped) be a number of false positives.

And please stop the lecture about the high moral norwegians.

People are people. If there is fame and money in the sport there will be cheaters.

High morale is unknown to you because you are american?

So your opinion is that the norwegian non cheating athletes in skiing, running, cycling....is because of a conspiracy, a cover up?

What is the point with altitude houses when you have blood doping?

You must not follow athletics very closely. National teams have been caught operating systematic doping systems many times. When was it that the Finnish XC skiing team was caught with blood doping supplies, 2001?

Freelove wrote:

You must not follow athletics very closely. National teams have been caught operating systematic doping systems many times. When was it that the Finnish XC skiing team was caught with blood doping supplies, 2001?

I follow athletics closely.

When was it that a nation with morale like Russia could be compared to every other nation?

2001 is correct, and? It was not surprising.

In your eyes every nation is the same?

Who is it who repeatedly have complained about too few and not good enough testing? Take a guess.

Old Iraqi citizen wrote:

What is the point with altitude houses when you have blood doping?

Ask Salazar.

Why have no media written about this possibly scandal with Bolt, was the rumor not true???

Koneko wrote:

I love how the Brojos bend over backwards to defend the systematic Jamaican doping program. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Puma/Bolt ads plastered all over this website. Nice objective reporting guys.

exactly, but you know what - just like Ricky Simms, Usain Bolt and everyone else - you gotta pay the bills so full credit to them

and as for Ricky Simms

"I have no idea why Usain's name was brought up. Usain has no connection with any of these people. Nobody from Team Bolt has any connection or knows any of these people."

comment, hahahahahahahaha nice one Ricky. You have been around this sport all these years (admittedly after you started as a shoe stacker in a warehouse and van driver before lucking into the most lucrative gig in the world after Kim passed away) and you don't know the guy? Well sure you don't. You don't have coffee with the guy or comment on his facebook pics but you KNOW the guy. Come on man. You conceivably owe your "high rolling" lifestyle to this guy and guys like him so don't be such a dick.

Believe me guys, if you haven't met Ricky Simms before - you should somehow try. If after 5 minutes of talking to him you can't figure it all out then I would be surprised.

This is beyond laughable. Try again retards!

longjack wrote:

atlas mountain and iberian peninsula runners use the ramzi protocol, which is the said aouta protocol, which is the el g protocol, which is the morcelli protocol......

africans dabble in pharmas, not known who is doing what.

europeans blood doped especially from 1972-1984.

Could you give us more details about the above???

Now, regarding your logic there -

I have to reply, as, although you make a good argument -

what you're saying is: For instance (a) - (where (a) is Saddam) - election is rigged, and results are false.

Therefore for all (A) results are false.

Although you draw a nice parallel in the percentages, the situation is different.

Saddam is one man who stands to gain alot by rigging something, although the results may intrinsically and evidentially be false -

Thousands of athletes in one sport being tested a number of times to produce results by a series of different individuals,

is very different indeed.

Ok, that sounds plausible. So, even though there have been some positives - like, caffeine, and a case of medicines in a few samples, out of thousands upon thousands?

Also, your argument is as such -

P: No-one dopes (supposedly)

P: Doping produces positive samples

P: If an athlete is clean, they will pass a test

E: There have been no positive tests recorded

C: (Lots of) athletes are doping.

Even if Evidence (E) is wrong, how do you draw your conclusion from your argument?

You've got a leap in logic there - and I believe it's based on your assumption that athletes are doping.

Even if we said

P: Athletes have tested positive in a number of sports

P: Athletes have tested positive in XC skiing

P: Norwegian athletes have not tested positive

C: Therefore Norwegian athletes are doping.

That still doesn't follow logically. And there's an assertion and an assumption underlying your arguments.