43rd out of 44 teams at Wisconsin Invite? Their top runner was 172nd?
How on earth does a great academic school with a rich athletic tradition, situated in a state DEEP with cross country talent, turn in results like this?
Does anyone know what's going on there?
They don't spend their money on distance runners, instead on track athletes. They get pretty good runners each year, but are not developing them. There are a lot of great coaches in Southern California, maybe they should look to bring in someone that knows what they are doing rather than a coach that really has never proven to be good at training athletes to race. Is it me or does it seem like colleges like coaches that know the rules of the NCAA more than coaches who know how to make an athlete fast? Sad to see UCLA in this state of disrepair. I live in the Santa Clarita Valley and think Rene Paragas from Saugus would turn that program around quickly!
but her face........
They do get good talent, they just do nothing with it. It really is a shame...
her face is fine, take a look at megan goethals a while then look back at her, lol
It is located in the urban jungle that is Los Angeles. Lousy place to train.
They compete in a conference dominated by the likes of Colorado, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington. How are you going to out-recruit those programs?
Hopkinton wrote:
They compete in a conference dominated by the likes of Colorado, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington. How are you going to out-recruit those programs?
Tell them you are UCLA
When has Colorado ever dominated the Pac-10 conference?
Hopkinton wrote:
They compete in a conference dominated by the likes of Colorado, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington. How are you going to out-recruit those programs?
Paragas? Really?
High school vs. NCAA, two different animals in terms of training, recruiting, eligibilty and NCAA rules and regulations. Paragas is a nice guy and decent high school coach, but I don't think UCLA is like Stanford, where there is a Director of T&F, and the coaches get to do what they do best... coach.
I don't know much about the current UCLA distance coach. All i know is that he is young and very inexperienced.
But please don't mention Rene Paragas from Saugus as a replacement. Everyone knows that Rene uses and abuses the girls so that there is nothing in their tank when they get to college. Shannon Murakami and Amber Murakami are examples 1 and 1A to support my facts. UCLA is the only Pac-12 school that will recruit a Rene Paragas athlete. Please, spare me the ridiculous endorsement.
UCLA women still suck. Forrest sucks. Rene Paragas would really suck.
How do you recruit at UCLA? You pick up the phone, or show up at a meet, and tell a kid that you would like him/her to be a Bruin. Sometimes you offer them a books schollie to sweeten the deal, but not necessarily. This strategy can be repeated ad nauseum. Kids will never catch on that they are headed to a running graveyard as long as they are distracted by the gear and the glitz.
Gee, their men are ranked #22 in the NCAA, maybe you're the one who sucks.
We're talking about the women here... which makes this even more interesting. Why such a huge disparity between men's and women's programs? Does Forest Braden coach both?
Think again CA recruiting 101 wrote:
Gee, their men are ranked #22 in the NCAA, maybe you're the one who sucks.
Not a huge difference between 'em. UCLA men finished 8th in last year's NCAA Regionals, the women 10th. In both cases five Pac-12 schools finished ahead of them. The Wisconsin Invitational tells us very little.
3 of their top 5 are Freshman, nuff said.
Haven't seen any decent women runners since at least 05 when Alison Costello ran distance and that hurdler got 4th in the 400H in the Olympics. There was another 400 girl there, Monique Henderson, a total b*tc*.
I was walking on campus actually reading a copy of T&FN in my hands I had just bought down on Westwood at that big news stand, that's stocked with a few copies, or used to be of T&FN. Anyway, this copy actually had her picture in it and I her walk by. I said, 'hey Monique, looking good, good job!'. She looked at me like a freak which I assuredly am not. Totally full of herself.
After that the girls imploded. Too bad.
""3 of their top 5 are Freshman, nuff said""
And 2 of their top 5 are upper class women. So what is your point? We all know Vega is injured because she was mishandled. So UCLA has to count on freshmen now because the coach mismanaged his athletes. When you finish 43rd out of 44 schools, it is embarrassing any way you look at it.
.... running in a race like Wisconsin or NCAAs as a frosh can be overwhelming for anyone. Also there is in fact a huge difference from men and women, the men did great at Wisconsin and placed a MA freshmen (don't know how they landed him) ahead of lukas V.. check your facts.
the realdeal wrote:
3 of their top 5 are Freshman, nuff said.
And where are last year's frosh? Sierra Vega, Melissa Skiba, Amber Murakami, etc. It's a graveyard. The Westwood legacy continues for the Bruin women. Please provide any proof to the contrary.