Gouchers moving to Colorado

At this point one has to be asking what is it about Salazar which is driving away talent? It is not normal for two high profile athletes to abandon their coach in the build up to the Olympics

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:

Yes he is.

where he at wrote:

Ritz was not included in the list of Salazar's athletes at the end of the article

Updated Article. The original one left out Ritz.

Everyone acts as if athletes are the only ones involved in the situational decision-making. No one has considered that Salazar might have shined them on. In the last year he has picked up Farah and O'Lionaird, both of whom are far more talented than Kara or Adam at this point. I think that he is being smart if a bit sang-froid in making cuts so that he can stay focused on athletes that are going to show an upside under his guidance. All of the above applies in the Webb case as well, IMO.

I also think that many women are being a bit delusional about the effects of child-bearing on their athletic careers. If it even costs you 1-3% in terms of energy/strength/efficiency, that can be crippling for a career where making a decent living can hinge on that decrement.

Is it possible Kara left Salazar because she wants a coach who will agree to coach Adam? Adam is no longer sponsored by Nike, so maybe Salazar's done with him.

Maybe she wants a coach who isn't spending all of his time with Galen Rupp? Even when Farah runs well the attention from Salazar seems to be on Rupp...

Color me surprised on this one, if it is actually true.

My best guess is something like how webb explained his departure - that he wanted a larger mid-d group to train with.

KGoucher was the only female marathoner with Al Sal, no? That probably gets old, esp now that AGoucher needs to train on his own and can't pace her all the time.

So I would expect her to be around a larger group - not necessarily all female, but larger.

I have no idea who else might be in this group, other than that it will be nike funded and probably at altitude. Maybe her and Shalane in Colorado? Shalane had a rotten year after womens xc worlds - no doubt she may want to shake things up.

Maybe Schumacher will move his group to altitude.

Shalane had a rotten year after World Cross? Two sub-31 10Ks and three sub 14:50 5Ks? I'd say she was fairly consistent.

I think she should join Hall and sign on with God to be her coach

Rotten Year? wrote:

Shalane had a rotten year after World Cross? Two sub-31 10Ks and three sub 14:50 5Ks? I'd say she was fairly consistent.

do you think Flanagan runs for time?

fairly consistent isn't good enough for someone who won an olympic medal, second at NYCM and a world xc individual medal - she strikes me as someone who is only happy when she is on the podium - a 7th at worlds is just not that great, given her championship history.

agip wrote:

Color me surprised on this one, if it is actually true.

I truly wish I could post with my real name. I promise you that you would not have been so suprised when I told you. There will still be another leaving town shortly.

coach jay?

either AZ and with Jack Daniels input or Monterey with Blake Russell and Bob Sevene.

Both we're involved with Joanie B's success.

Weather in Monterey and AZ are much better than NW Pacific.

Nope...she's arrogant. ok?

stellar werker wrote:

agip wrote:

Color me surprised on this one, if it is actually true.

I truly wish I could post with my real name. I promise you that you would not have been so suprised when I told you. There will still be another leaving town shortly.

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I'm a little dubious because the story has not been picked up anywhere but that one article, and lrc hasn't put it up on their splash page.

but it is probably true

Where did the Colorado connection come from? None of the releases (social media or other) has hinted at Colorado at all.

Trust me, you're not that important. Posting your name wouldn't change anything. George Malley is on here, can you beat him? Ed Whitlock as well.

I never said any location. I just said that I was 100% sure that she was leaving Alberto.

The BroJos may have connections, but not many of those connections trust them or care to provide them with this kind of information, which is why we typically find out on the messageboard from some random, anonymous person a week before the BroJos link to it on the main page.

I believe Dave Ross:

http://www.runnerspace.com/news.php?news_id=21270-Alberto-Salazar-confirms-Kara-Goucher-is-leaving-the-Nike-Oregon-Project-OregonLive-com