Walter Dix... Please don't start doping

It's also the sort of thing that drives guys like Dix to other sports, usually well before they ever consider a career on the track. Why put up with dopers stealing your tiny paycheck when you can make 10 times as much as a benchwarmer in an American style football league?

And you're certain he isn't already when he drops a PR in Daegu after struggling to get under 20 seconds then drops a sizeable PR afterwards in the Diamond Race just afterwards?

Lol.. Obviously the only people doping are the people winning right? Or is it that the only people doping now are the ones from Jamaica? Or is it just all the black ones?

I can't tell these days whether some of you lot are serious, blind, ridiculously biased or both.

Do I think that Blake is likely juicing? Oh yea, definitely. 'tis either that or something went wrong at that event re: timing, track length or some combination of both.

But to tell me that the majority of you lot have no doubts over Lemaitre, Tyson Gay (who has the exact same body type as Blake), tubby man Dix who looks and has always looked like an overweight bowling ball (bar Beijing in 2008) and the whole host of others around track and field in other events, disciplines etc. INCLUDING a host of Americans, Russians, Brazilians (OMG they definitely had some suspicious fellahs) and others is just too much ignorance for my tastes.

Apply skepticism uniformly you muppets. And if the case is being made that Blake is some bat-out-of-hell talent in the 200m or something like that, do a bit of research first k? Kid was a decent 400 runner and did mostly 200's before this year including a 19.78 nearly running down Tyson Gay just last year.

So how to you explain his progression in the 200? From 19.78 to 19.26. 0.52 second drop in 14 months? If that doesn't raise any eyebrows I don't know what does.

@dre217

Dix didn't drop any PR in Daegu , and he's been running under 20 for 4 years.

Lemaitre, Gay, and Dix are the top three fastest clean guys in the world.

Gay injures himself trying to catch dopers.

Dix has to settle for silver and 2nd places.

Lemaitre becomes known as the "fastest white man", when he really is one of the fastest men in the world, period.

I can't blame these guys for being discouraged. I just hope they don't start doping.

The Jamaican squad will eventually be declared illegitimate, just like the Chinese and East Germans before them. Unfortunately, this isn't likely to happen until long after Bolt and Blake retire.

how do you know these three guys are not doping themselves??????

He STRUGGLED and TOILED all season and didn't get under 20 too many times until Daegu no?

And he PR-ed in Brussels and came within 0.01 of his PR in Daegu regardless.

I'm sick and tired of everyone assuming the following:

If they're Jamaican, they're dirty

If they're American, they're now squeaky clean

If they're white, they're most likely clean or given the benefit of the doubt.

I don't think Gay is clean or Dix for that matter and I frankly don't care whether any of you lot agree or disagree on that fact.

Noone was up on their high-horses shouting down the US during the height of the steroid era (1980's - 2005), they just accepted that for the time being, the US was better regardless of the means they used to become the best.

I suggest a few of you eat some crow and come to terms with the fact that this era belongs to someone else, by fair or foul means and they'll be caught if they are/were cheating. I'm sure you all will get back on top eventually, by some means.

The steroid era as you claim began much much sooner than that, it is just that many case were brought to light then, because of improved anti doping control. In fact drug test were a joke in the 1960s or 1970s.It is probable that Ben johnson wouldn't have been caught if he had been on stanozolol in 1978 rather than 1988.

The steroid era as you claim began much much sooner than that, it is just that many case were brought to light then, because of improved anti doping control. In fact drug test were a joke in the 1960s or 1970s.It is probable that Ben johnson wouldn't have been caught if he had been on stanozolol in 1978 rather than 1988.[/quote]blabla wrote:

He wouldn't have been caught in 1978, that's almost a certain fact. I see so many people on here complaining and saying that dopers are so blatant and wrong now. But if one looks at most of the records set in the 70's and 80's they were certainly done with some(a lot) of help.

What's the point in preventing the current athletes from using any aids if everyone back in the day had them and used them or that athletes back then could get away with what would be in the current day and age considered "murder" with their drug avoidance.

It's silly if you ask me.

Only making an observation about his reaction to the race. I just find it interesting that he doesn't congratulate Blake, walks straight to the tunnel pissed off, and starts barking at someone about something. If he (Dix) was doping too, why would he be ticked off? One doper beaten by another doper.

I don't think Dix is doping. I do think Blake is, especially considering his near miss with doping control in the not so distant past. And I do have doubts about other athletes.

Dix, being IN the sport, knows things spectators, you and me, don't know. That might explain Dix's actions, knowing that he just ran a time that should have won and again having to take second place to someone he may have suspicions about.

As far as the others you mention, I made no comment about them. I also made no references to Jamaicans as a whole and I made no comment about the race of the runners. Do you enjoy drawing conclusions from thin air? For all you know, I'm a black Jamaican. Are you drawing conclusions from the way I type, the nature of my comments, the clarity with which I'm asking the question, or maybe my name? If so, I would suggest you examine your own predispositions, possible racial bias, and bigotry.

'The Jamaican squad will eventually be declared illegitimate, just like the Chinese and East Germans before them'

You've missed American out which has the worst record in sprinters doping of any country

chikin wrote:

Anybody else notice Dix leaving the track after Blake's 200? It's on the homepage at 1:18 on the video. You see him heading straight into the tunnel and he doesn't look happy. No congratulating Blake. Just speculating but I'm pretty sure he's tired of getting beaten by guys he thinks/suspects are doped. I'd like to know what he was saying as he entered the tunnel.

This is the sort of stuff that drives guys to dope.

Wow, way to put a spin on what was actually a display of bad sportsmanship.

Ask Merlene Ottey (Jamaican) about having your medals stolen by dopers. As a matter of fact, all the medals won by USA dopers prior to Balco should have been reclaimed, given to the athletes they cheated and records wiped clean. Jamaica's tally would be enormous then. That's a fact, not speculation.

Whaaat? wrote:

Wow, way to put a spin on what was actually a display of bad sportsmanship.

Ask Merlene Ottey (Jamaican) about having your medals stolen by dopers. As a matter of fact, all the medals won by USA dopers prior to Balco should have been reclaimed, given to the athletes they cheated and records wiped clean. Jamaica's tally would be enormous then. That's a fact, not speculation.

Not the same Merlene Ottey that tested positive for Nandrolone was it?

Oh yeah..my mistake..she got the 'oops, we can't bust someone from an attractive clean country like Jamaica or Kenya can we?' treatment. Or, to give it the official title, her B sample was negative.

trollism wrote:

Not the same Merlene Ottey that tested positive for Nandrolone was it?

Yes that same one. However, you forgot the part of her being cleared of all charges. I know, you just happened to miss that part, but I don't mind helping out. (I included a link for your enjoyment)

"In the summer of 2000, Ottey was cleared of all charges by the IAAF and Jamaica Amateur Athletic Association, and the laboratory who had tested her sample came under severe criticism.[citation"

He probably is pissed because he can't win no matter what he does or how old the person he's running against is.

He may think the person is illegitimate sure, but who's to say he's not more pissed because he's taken the same leap too and still lost.

He could well be clean and think that noone faster than him could possibly be or something along those lines, he's never been much in the way of a good winner anyway.

XD

PS. I don't give a toss either way you cut it, I know there's significant anti-jamaican bias on the boards and I assume that's the case whenever anyone makes comments about one or another doing something illegal just because they're currently better while not casting doubts on anyone else involved.

Whaaat? wrote:

chikin wrote:

Anybody else notice Dix leaving the track after Blake's 200? It's on the homepage at 1:18 on the video. You see him heading straight into the tunnel and he doesn't look happy. No congratulating Blake. Just speculating but I'm pretty sure he's tired of getting beaten by guys he thinks/suspects are doped. I'd like to know what he was saying as he entered the tunnel.

This is the sort of stuff that drives guys to dope.

Wow, way to put a spin on what was actually a display of bad sportsmanship.

Ask Merlene Ottey (Jamaican) about having your medals stolen by dopers. As a matter of fact, all the medals won by USA dopers prior to Balco should have been reclaimed, given to the athletes they cheated and records wiped clean. Jamaica's tally would be enormous then. That's a fact, not speculation.

Ottey doped. And if he knows Blake is dirty, he has every right to walk off the track. Has Dix done that before? No.

Would you rather he stick around for Blake's posing? Maybe he could stand around and watch the foolishness and look like a in headlights like Tyson Gay after Bolt's 100 record? Or maybe give him a hug like Xiang did Robles after he was robbed of a world title?

Dix and Gay are as clean as Carl Lewis, Tim Montgomery, Justin Gatlin and Mo Greene. They are all as clean as Ben Johnson, it's just that some got caught and some didn't. This game is still being played out, and ALL are on the same level of "fair".

Just to follow the line of reasoning here, you're guilty because some yahoos on a message board think you are, regardless of any supported facts or not.

Dix is a poor sport - unfortunately that is all too typical of so many American athletes (if you want to paint with a broad brush)- and he should be ashamed at his reaction. Blake ran 9.82 at worlds, and is actually fit (unlike Powell),so why shouldn't he run that fast(19.26)? Bolt would have run under 19.00 in 2009 if he didn't have so many rounds at worlds. The fact that a no-talent bum like T.Gay, or a fat guy like Dix, can even get close to these guys says that they too must be on something.

Ottey doped. And if he knows Blake is dirty, he has every right to walk off the track. Has Dix done that before? No.

Would you rather he stick around for Blake's posing? Maybe he could stand around and watch the foolishness and look like a in headlights like Tyson Gay after Bolt's 100 record? Or maybe give him a hug like Xiang did Robles after he was robbed of a world title?

Only thing worse than a Chikin is a lair. Ottey didn't dope, else she wouldn't have been cleared off the accusations by the IAAF.

I'd rather that he suck up his ass whuppin and shake hands like a real man, instead of running off to cry like a little beyotch. In any book, that was bad sportsmanship. Robles held back Xiang with his hands and got disqualified. The only thing holding back Dix is his weight... no DQ there.

You people are blinded by your stupidity. Your theories assume that each individual performs his utmost best in every race, so its a progression. Have you ever seen his 19.78 in which he nearly beat Gay. It was a terrible race. He started horribly, executed the turn poorly and still ran that time.

If that doesn't point to him being truly talented the I don't know what does. Again, I will say it. He went to my high school. I know him personally. That is the last thing he would do. If he did that he would be risking some broken bones from his parents. No joke.

He is just as talented as Bolt so live with it.