Options for a 1:47/14:01/29:06 guy....

Let me improve on Recent FSA's good advice... As a consultant he/she knows that folks on the insurance side work fewer hours than the consultants.

I can tell you the best place to work on the insurance side ... a MUTUAL insurance company.

This means that the co. is legally owned by the policyholders, none of which has a large enough stake to ride hard on management the way large shareholders do. Enter a large co. with an actuarial training program that gives you time off to study, preferably with a fitness center. After banking some extra hours I managed to use them and study time to work three days a week for a few months straight.

It helps if you don't require huge amounts of time to study enough to pass the exams (any score over the minimum of 6 is wasted studying). Some material -- in my day -- was incredibly boring (taxation of Canadian insurance companies). You can also free up running time by cramming the studying into small amounts of otherwise useless time (helps with the boredom issue also)

Of course if you find it easy to pass the exams, you might also find the work itself d u l l (implementing regulations as opposed to using your own considered judgment). I got out right after my FSA, after doing it for seven years after college while competitive running was my main focus. I qualified for Olympic trials, maxed out $10k/yr in road race $, while

doing it. Working a cash register at Target sounds MUCH harder (unless you get all stressy about the exams)

As many have said, your 800 is much better than longer races, yet you are doing marathoner mileage. Either you have not raced enough at 5K and up or you just aren't a distance runner. Or your training is not well structured and you may be racing too tired. You need to back off the mileage for several weeks leading up to a big race and do a structured VO2 max build up for at least 8 weeks prior to that.

To RecentFSA: 80-100mi/wk ain't hobby jogging. Give yourself some credit.

I think you will run fast again...you have nice range. My feeling is if you have more balance and put less pressure on yourself you will prevail... Keep training....

start cutting back the days leading up to a race say 60 min, 40 min 30 mins and you just might be surprised how fasy you run. Don't be a slave to mileage...

There's not a guy in America who runs 1:47 for 800m that's training 110-135 miles a week.

This guy is either seriously miss-guided or doesn't actually exist.

With 1:47 speed and that kind of base mileage in the bank he could be a beast at anything up to the marathon. Heck I don't even think that the international 5k/10k guys in the US could run a 1:47.

If this is for real then who is it? Graduated in 2007, is from Minnesota.

A) If you exist, get a coach.

B) Have a plan.

C) Get in some races.

Start by running a 1/2 marathon and getting the Olympic Trials qualifier for January. That will help get you some sponsorship and then build on that for track and get in some legit 1500m, 3000m, 5000m and 10,000m races on the track.

wow, so many responses! I just finished an easy 10 miler by myself (it was so dark), on which run I actually had an idea to race the first 13.1 miles of Boston (with the top guys) then drop out.

I've given it some thought. I've given everything some thought, and my thought process is: just get qualified in something for the trials. Before 2012, I want to run sub 13:45, and sub 1:48 again. well, damn, i'll have to if i want a flying chance to at least run the trials with a sliver of hope. I know it's next to impossible to even make top 5, but hey, if it keeps me training hard for the next race...let it pull me through to some faster times.

Also, some other BIG NEWS. I think I've found a coach. A fellow letsrunner somehow got a hold of my email (asked around? former coach?) and I'm pretty sure I've got a guy that's going to train me, with past experience of working with 1:47 800m guys. I'm pumped. 1:47 is what the kid in high school ran on his 4x8 relay, I have to drop it down at least a second if I want to do this, and do it right.

Again, thanks overwhelming support from letsrun, I didn't think i would have so many people interested. thank you, and i'll keep you updated!

zfdsklwjagio wrote:

option?

http://www.teamindianaelite.com

This.

Chapman is your guy and that group is in your talent range. If I'm not mistaken housing is provided and Bloomington is a gorgeous place to be (especially in the Fall/Summer).

Plus there's a ton of skanky college chicks to be had.

Get some son!

This is the best advice. Make sure that you have a career started and if your running career doesn't pay, you can always go back to your original professional. Since you are young you can keep running and able to manage your career at same time.

Yup, you are one of those unfortunates who are very talented but in running there's hardly any room at the top for big $.

And you are aways from the top. If you were a golfer you'd be Nationwide tour material and could likely pull in regular 6 figures a year but....your a runner. Just run for fun but get another line of work.

The D. Wottle? I Have a handwritten letter from DW written to me when I was a HS senior in Buffalo NY in 1978.

The D. Wottle? I Have a handwritten letter from DW written to me when I was a HS senior in Buffalo NY in 1978.

Is it possible to do part-time or contract work as an actuary? As a consultant you'd have the best of both worlds; more cash than the starving artist working at a running store and you might be building a unique reputation in your field as the elite athlete who is still able to complete professional assignments.

there are only 3 guys who have run 1:47 while still at a DIII college: http://www.cmsathletics.org/ncaa/track/d3tracklist-m.pdf and I don't think that you are any of them....

just saying.... wrote:

there are only 3 guys who have run 1:47 while still at a DIII college:

http://www.cmsathletics.org/ncaa/track/d3tracklist-m.pdf

and I don't think that you are any of them....

I think he said he went to a DI school, not DIII.