A World Record Is Going Down In Brussels

Betty Heidler might have a shot at the womens' hammer world record if she's going to be at Rieti. She already set the world record once this summer, and I'm sure she's pissed about losing WCs.

who was El G's coach? same guy who coached Kaouch right?

bangalangadanga wrote:

who was El G's coach? same guy who coached Kaouch right?

Abdelkader Kada. Kaouch had been part of the group (as had Ramzi) but both left sometime around El Guerrouj's retirement. Kaouch went on his own and I'm nearly certain was coaching himself from 2005-2007 until his drug bust. Ramzi went to work with Khalid Boulami, who has had a number of athletes test positive, including his brother, back in 2002.

A world record MUST fall in Rieti. It's in the meet contract.

I think Choge has still the possibility to become the no. 1 in 5000m, if fit and really motivated to train for the distance. About Daniel Komen, he still thinks possible to run under 3'30", so of course doesn't accept the role of pace maker. During the last 2 years, the best pacer was a my athlete (Collins Cheboi), that is still very young and ran in 3'32"35 finishing a race he paced ! Of course, also Collins wants now to have his chance. In Kenyan Champs he defeated Chepseba, and in other occasions Daniel Komen, and I think can run next year under 3'31".

For pacing, the athletes must be mentally involved, and, till when some of them wants to try his chances as a runner, managers cant force them in pacing.

The best pacers were athletes already at the end of their career (William Tanui after winning Olympic) or strong and professional athletes understanding never could win a medal (Martin Keino). Now, the field doesn't present any athletes in this situation.

who signed that contract? The organizers and Timetronics?

I think Alan Webb should become a professional pacer. He can pace a large variety of distances and would be free from the mental pressure of winning. He would be the greatest pacer ever. Does anyone see him ever coming back as a medal threat after so many wasted years?

Dear Retano

What do you think of the young Ethiopian Yenew Alamirew? he has run some of the fastest 3K races recently, both indoor and outdoor, i think he will will the 3K indoor next year in Turkey, and follow that up by taking Olympic gold in the 5K.

What are your thoughts??

It can only happen if Kiprop learns to win races from the front rather than playing the cat and mouse games. He has the potential, and the talent, but he keep wasting himself in many occasions.

he is the biggest doper on the circuit. Coming out of nowhere running 7:27 at Rieti last fall. Yeah right.

Get ur facts right dam ass, it was actually Milan not Rieti. Ass wipe!!!

Dear fff, why you don't go to a psychiatrist that can diagnose your schizophrenia, so you can be treated and your life can become better ?

You always speak about doping. You don't know anything about athletics and the athletes, but you have this obsession only : DOPING !

Yenew Alamirew is a young runner with unbelievable talent. He is still in very little training (never twice per day, 5 sessions per week), and this is the reason because is not yet very good in 5000m (lack of endurance because of little training). Having the ability to develop very high intensity, having a wonderful natural running technique, he can run very fast till 3000m, but NEVER developed max speed (and when in Eugene ran the mile he showed big gap under tactical ability) and NEVER developed specific endurance.

So,listen my preview : if becomes able to learn English (without this is not possible to communicate), to increase the volume, to follow a more precise plan, Yenew becomes, in two years, the new WR holder of 5000m.

Hopefully Alamirew can get his body settled and healthy and put in a few good years of training with limited racing. I think he has the talent to run 12:45

Many thanks Renato. That was an excellent analysis of the athlete and his potential.

As for that Wanker fff, why don’t u leave us alone and take ur childish nonsense somewhere else??? This site is for people with a real interest and enthusiasm in athletics. No one is interested in your garbage. IDIOT!!!!

Renato,

You have officially lost some of my credibility. To suppose that records could drop with faster pacers is ridiculous. We all know that athletes who cannot sustain world record paces will not follow the pacer. Back in the day WR holders like KB, El G and even Haile would yell at the pacers mid-race to get them to go faster. Heck, Daniel Komen even ran a WR by himself for 5,000. This is not possible toady and something is to be accountable for it. Training has evolved and I'm assuming failed evolutionary principles of training are the problem, but to suppose that athletes need faster paces to suddenly drop world records...tsk tsk.

Rec Runner x wrote:

Renato,

You have officially lost some of my credibility.

Renato may or may not have lost credibility, but whatever credibility he has ever had, it is not yours...

Renato, first and foremost thank you for sharing your training schedules and thoughts on this board. Can you comment on your thoughts on Alan Webb, if you even have any, and what his best time might have been at 800m, 1500m, and 5000m given his past performances? I am just curious what a world class coach thinks of one of America's best distance runners in the last 30 years.

Thanks and Cheers!

Thank you Renato for giving fff the spanking he deserves.

Renato Canova wrote:

Yenew Alamirew is a young runner with unbelievable talent. He is still in very little training (never twice per day, 5 sessions per week), and this is the reason because is not yet very good in 5000m (lack of endurance because of little training). Having the ability to develop very high intensity, having a wonderful natural running technique, he can run very fast till 3000m, but NEVER developed max speed (and when in Eugene ran the mile he showed big gap under tactical ability) and NEVER developed specific endurance.

So,listen my preview : if becomes able to learn English (without this is not possible to communicate), to increase the volume, to follow a more precise plan, Yenew becomes, in two years, the new WR holder of 5000m.

This is the most interesting post I've read on here in some time. I have been convinced of his immense talent also. I even believe Alamirew had a shot to be world champion this year due to the way championship 5000 meter races frequently turn into de facto 3000 meter races. The way Alamirew ran 3:50, I would concur that he could have easily run 3:49 with better tactics, although it was quite a crowded field. To run 12:37 is quite a challenge, but I believe if anybody can do it from the current crop, it is Alamirew, although he might have just as good of a chance to scare 7:20 in a couple years.