Melodius Thunk wrote:
I saw her first Footlocker High School championship at age 14. Amazing little girl far ahead of the juniors and seniors. Thought she'd be an NCAA champ for sure by now. Maybe she should turn pro. Her major at OU is exercise physiology anyway so...
Agreed, however your implication that Vin trying to score more points equals overtaxing athletes is where we disagree. His decisions are about winning AND doing what is best for the long term success of athletes. The two are not mutually exclusive, and in the end, the individual comes first.
Read before you write. Im not one side or the other , just looking at facts.
" Didnt we read how this young athlete asked over the coaches advice to run two events in the last outdoor NCAA"
Do your research , he states numerous time pre and during the meet about getting points to win.
Coaches with teams that have a shot at finishing high at nationals look at getting points wherever they can. Vin is a master of this as his record of high placings over the years show.
Obviously we were discussing Hasay's situation in the context of being a college runner. I thought that was pretty straight forward. No one presented the pro option as that particular scenario didn't come up initially. However, you presented something I didn't even think of and you have a good point.
Very not true wrote:
Actually she could walk and turn pro. I dont think she will as it appears she enjoys the team and college life.
Jordan Hasay interview on Living the Run Radio with Ryan Foran and Olympian Paul Terek via this link http://livingtherun.com/?p=3940. We talk about her sophomore year at the University of Oregon, going for the double at the NCAA National Championships, her redshirt plans for next season’s Olympic year, and more. Here’s another interview we did with Jordan about recruiting, burnout, and training http://livingtherun.com/?p=2941.
No, she goes to UO.
Melodius Thunk wrote:
Her major at OU is exercise physiology anyway so...
Well let's see, he doesn't coach eaton, Wheating is hurt this year and not himself after a brilliant career at Oregon. We will see how his post collegiate career goes, but it's not off to a brilliant start. Centro is running great now, wait till he gets out of college, most athletes can handle Vins training for the five years of college and then fall apart after, hope he is different. Vin never coached Rupp, the list goes on, who else do you have?? The effects of doubling at every conference, regional, and national champs does not take it's toll until after college usually. Some keep improving, most don't.
Employeee #1 wrote:
I haven't even watched the video but I'm going to act as if the OP is not pulling my leg.
Seems like your opinion misses the point. Wouldn't "greed sucking Vin" make her run NCAAs AND the OT's ? Instead, he's giving a runner who, despite expectations, won't even be a favorite for the American team (Willard, Uceny, Rowbury, Barringer, Wurth-Thomas... do I need to list everyone here?)
No, instead, if he decides to allow her to redshirt, she can train for OT's, get some great experiences in Europe (without the BS pressure that she is already a pro at handling) and come back for 3 more years of kicking butt at Oregon before her real shot in 2016.
"Greed sucking Vin" seemed to work out pretty well as a coach for Eaton, Wheating, Centro, Rupp, and the list goes on. I like the decision to red-shirt Hasay. She can gain some valuable experience, get to know the girls on the pro circuit (who don't give a crap about all the NCAA hype), and come back more confident in her long term prospects.
Thanks for posting and feel free to post again. But - and I know this isn't exactly Standard Op Procedure on these boards - clean up your language and post more respectfully. It's ok to disagree with a decision but calling someone "greed sucking" first of all doesn't even make sense and secondly is an unnecessary attempt at insult.