legs.... fitness.... strength.... Sureyya Ayhan... Szabo... Favor

Apparently no one else sees it or else you don't read t&f news.

dunes runner wrote:

Apparently no one else sees it or else you don't read t&f news.

possibility #3:

collectively the board thinks you're an idiot.

What you and any others of low character think does not matter. To me or to anyone else.

I could not find my October issue to see the photo. I have always though SFH had a strong build, as she does fairly intensive leg weights and plyometrics. Ahyan is pretty thick, not sure how much is natural.

I would say it is natural, at least with Ayhan.

Szabo is 99 pounds and strong.

SFH is doing much better with her distance background, though she still looks quite weak.

Take a look at the photos if you get a chance.

I haven't seen the picture to which you are referring, but it would be hard to find athletes with better toned/strong legs than those coached by Peter Tegen.

The voice of reason once again returns. I have seen Suzy in the weightroom, I know exactly what she does upper and lower body to strength train, I assure you if you put her next to Szabo on a squat rack or leg press or extension she would be lifting much more weight that Szabo does-I have seen the legs up close-they are strong-she runs fast period. Everyone is going to have a different build and reaction to weight and other training in how the body shows it outwardly with muscle appearance and what is inside the muscle. The inward structure is what counts buddy.

Have you ever look at Noah Ngeny's legs compared to El G's? They have both run virtually the same time for the mile and 1500, yet El G's legs are shaped different and have a tendency to show more muscle bulk that Ngeny's do? It is simple human genetics there rocket scientist.

Do not knock Suzy, do you know anything about her, do you know how she trains, what she does to run as fast as she does? I do. I know exactly how hard she trains and exactly how intense she is with her training. She is only getting better, more consistent and stronger. A picture in a magazine has led to your speculation here, why? Last time I checked she went to Europe last summer and had the best string of races any American over the 400m distance has had since. . . . . .who knows? Mary?

THE VOICE OF REASON HAS SPOKEN

Were you responding to your own post and forgot to change your name to one of the many other usernames you use?

The only name I ever used since I started playing with you elite runner haters(which I am not) here is NOLIMIT. Get back to the subject.

Ummmmm, I was not talking about you. Look at first 2 posts on this thread.

my bad-good point. carry on.

.......and good post by the way.

me thinks the first poster was pointing out that nobody replied to his original post

Nolimit,

Apparently you are Sfh's coach and took personally what I said but it was not meant as a put down to her. Yes she is indeed a very good runner and I am glad she has had a better season this year with some very good times, for an American.

My message was more to illustrate the strength of Szabo and Ayhan.

You seem to be very impressed with strength in a weight room. If you think that has something to do with running then fine. But I do wonder, if it is working so well, why does her form always fall apart at the end and even in the middle of her races.

You can definitely tell a lot from pictures, AND from the numerous WC and Olympics races on tv over the years, many of which I've recorded. Szabo is alwaysconcise, precise, compact, and extremely efficient.

You might note that Szabo consistently runs 14:30 to 14:40 5000s. And is good friends, neighbors, and trains with top marathoner Lidia Simon.

Ayhan is just totally amazing. Imagine all the barriers and obstacles she has had to overcome living and training in Turkey. There has been no precedent at all for what she is doing. Yet she is doing it anyway, and paving the way for others to follow in her footsteps. Good for her.

dunes runner

did not put down anyone in his original post. He was asking a question.

16x wrote:

dunes runner

did not put down anyone in his original post. He was asking a question.

16x... thank you : )

I do apologize if it seemed that way.

Sfh is an excellent runner and must have a good program to be accomplishing what she is.

Yeh right? How about some ocean fron property in Arizona kiddo?

dunes runner wrote:

Szabo is alwaysconcise, precise, compact, and extremely efficient.

You might note that Szabo consistently runs 14:30 to 14:40 5000s. And is good friends, neighbors, and trains with top marathoner Lidia Simon.

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Not exactly friends with OY though...guess that must make her a *drug cheat* lacking character and all that. Have you told her she got to quit running yet?

Her off track attacks on other runners have not been endearing,

though I have always admired her athletic and competitive abilities.